The war in Iraq

[[toj.cc]WildBillKickoff]

Cast your votes on this one. This should be VERY interesting.

[Stc95]

i voted yes but i am not 100% sure on my vote. Next week will be a must see! /excited!!!

[Thrawn]

'I don't know."

I'm familiar with a lot of theological debates, but I'll admit this is one that I haven't spent any time looking into. Guess I should read up on the subject for next week. :)

[Stc95]

'I don't know."

I'm familiar with a lot of theological debates, but I'll admit this is one that I haven't spent any time looking into. Guess I should read up on the subject for next week. :)

most definanately

[Thrain]

I voted yes and I have reasons. Not sure if I can make the study though. I'll try to.

[one2dredd]

That is a question is the War Biblical? I don't think so but do I support the War in Iraq yes I support our Presidant and our troops I have friends there. But should we have gone there according to the Bible? That is tough one.

[Stc95]

That is a question is the War Biblical? I don't think so but do I support the War in Iraq yes I support our Presidant and our troops I have friends there. But should we have gone there according to the Bible? That is tough one.
i voted yes on the reason of the war. i dont support Bush nor do i not support him, but i always will support our troops!

[astrod00d]

I don't know if it is biblically justifiable but I do think it is a step in the right direction. Someone in the UN needs to step up to the plate and actually enforce its rulings. If anything, the lack of support we've received has emboldened the radical nations into calling the UN's bluff since we kind of have our hands full in Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at North Korea and Iran. The only reason they're puffing out their chests is because they know the UN will only give them mean looks for it. One thing I do know is that NK better not set off that nuke. That whole region will start to get ugly really fast if they do. Technically, we're still at war with North Korea since we never signed a formal peace treaty with them. It's actually just a 50 year and counting cease-fire.

[ChickenSoup]

Yeah, and N.K. just tested a nuclear weapon :eek:

[Dauntless]

i voted yes on the reason of the war. i dont support Bush nor do i not support him, but i always will support our troops!

I agree with you. But I voted no. It seems to me that despite the war that is present in the old testament, Jesus came to teach us a message of peace and love. But regardless, war is only a justifiable act in a few situations, such as going to war to stop Hitler. Afghanistan was also justifiable to me but Iraq was not justifiable.

I support our troops. As long as they are on the battlefield I will pray for them and their families but I do not support the president, that being said I will also not judge him, as it is not my place.

I can tell this will be quite an intense bible study and I look forward to seeing what everyone can biblically come up with.

[ChickenSoup]

But regardless, war is only a justifiable act in a few situations, such as going to war to stop Hitler. Afghanistan was also justifiable to me but Iraq was not justifiable.


So, we can stop Hitler but not Hussein?

[Thrain]

One of our responsibilities as a nation is to protect Israel. If we don't protect Israel, we lose the bit of God's blessing that we have as a nation. I would rather not see the United States in an even further spiritual withdrawal because we refused to protect Israel from Hussein.

I agree with what CS said. What about Hitler? Hussein was supposed to be the next Hitler.

[[toj.cc]WildBillKickoff]

Instead, the next Hitler is Ahmedinejad (sp?), but that's beside the point.

I can tell already that this will be a HOT topic, so I'm glad to be leading this. Please be assured that it will be led with my usual tact and fairmindedness, and I look forward to seeing you all there.

[Stc95]

Cant wait, will be there and i would like to that Sherman (even though he isnt here and this is on the wrong board place thing...) for his sevice and what he is doing. AND thank you everyone else who served. THANK YOU!

[j7d7w7]

I agree with you. But I voted no. It seems to me that despite the war that is present in the old testament, Jesus came to teach us a message of peace and love.

Not to start an argument but just to see what you think. if Jesus came to bring peace why did he say this "Do not think that i came to bring peace on earth; i did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matt 10:34

Or even when Jesus sent his disciples out. The first time he told them not to take a sword but when he was preparing them for after his death he told them to take one (and then Peter said.."well we have 2 here") sorry i forgot where it was at.

But then again you have when Peter cut off the ear off the slave of the high priest and Jesus said, "Put your sword back into its place; for all those who take up the sword shall perish by the sword." Matt 26:51

just some thoughts about Jesus coming to bring "peace"

[ajmucha]

i agree with astrod00d. im not sure on it myself. do i think it's necesary? yes. do i like the way it's being handled? no. do i like how we're pumping a billion into it per day? no.

[RoloX2]

For some reason, the index shows the most recent post posted 03-30-2007 09:31 AM

However, the post says last November. Weird.

So what'd y'all decide?



Let me rephrase the question:

Is defending one's self (with arms) Biblically OK?

[Stc95]

Let me rephrase the question:



Is defending one's self (with arms) Biblically OK?

i say yes
My Proof: The Bible
Where in Bible: between Genisis and Revelations
HAVE FUN!
:D

[RoloX2]

Revelations



RevelatioN

(it was one revelation)

;)

[sdenotter]

OHhhhhh ;) lol

[Safora]

RevelatioN

(it was one revelation)

;)


:eek:


OOPS! :D

*Scratching head, wondering how many times I've used Revelations in conversation.

[ChickenSoup]

wow, stc, that was very specific of you. :p

[Stc95]

wow, stc, that was very specific of you. :p

i try :cool:


RevelatioN

(it was one revelation)

i knew that, i was just testing everyone :rolleyes:

*Scratching head, wondering how many times I've used Revelations in conversation.


*me too*

[Sherman]

Im kinda partul on this subject so it probibly isnt fair for me to have voted but I voted Yes after seing first hand the things that the formar dictater did to people just to show that he is incharge I know without a doupt that we were ment to be there and we were ment to get rid of him. Also the bigger reason is now the gosple is spreding it use to be a thing that was talked about in hiding and people met in secret, but on my secound vacation to the great sand box I met Iraqis that openly descused the bible and crist with me. We even did this one mision in a town just south of Mosule Iraq that is compleatly christian and not the christian like most americans these were spirit filled compleatly dedicated christians and they actualy helped me in realizing how fake i had become by that point. So even though I have just babled away a whole parigrafe I still have to say yes its Justifiable.

[astrod00d]

Thanks for stopping in Sherman! It's good to hear from you. If you ever make your way down to Fort Sam Houston, let me know and we'll do lunch.

Yes, there are probably more Christians in Iraq than most people imagine. It's still dominated by the Muslim faith but there are patches of Christians here and there who can now voice their beliefs without fear (or at least as much fear) of being persecuted. There's an actual Protestant movement over there. Many of Saddam's palace workers were Christians because believe it or not, he trusted Christians more than he trusted Muslims. He was afraid of being poisoned by Shiite servants.

[Legandary Spartan]

I know this post is late on the subject but i missed the bible study and would like to know somehow. Also weither we support the war, or bush we need to support the troops. THEY vollentered, weither they knew what there were going into or not, they VOLLENTERED. I think almost everyone misses they point they they were not made to join, but they did. Every where i see a soldier i thank them for their sacrifces. There out there, not us, and thanking them for dieing for us, weither you think it's right or wrong, or weither you think what im saying is right or wrong, thanking them would be the least we could do. I support the troops, for the bravery and sacrifises, and the courage and the fact that they have more guts to me to jump out there (i do not say that last line:D) than me, i do not support the fact that people die in war.

[Lazarus]

Well, if you think nation-building and ignoring another country's sovereignty and breaking our Constitution by following the mandate of "the United Nations" is Biblical, then that answers your question...

*coughs*