Mage Discussion

[Reason]

Upon Reasonable hitting level 64 last night, I came into a problem with where to put my talent points. It's not like I don't know the class at all, but I found myself at a loss last night on where to put the talent point and on where to put the following ones.

Here is Reasonable's build currently - 10/0/45 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0VZZVAGcofxoqox) At level 65 I will be making 2/2 in Ice Floes. After this though, I'm not quite sure on where to go. Maybe 1 point into Imp Blizzard? But my problem with that is that the crowd control of Blizzard isn't really there. The only time I have even had to use Blizzard is in Blood Furnace.

Maybe 3/3 in Imp Cone of Cold?
Arctic Winds?
Water Elemental just for those situations where I run out of mana?

[Crackotage]

My mage's inteded 70 build: 40/0/21 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Ri0E00czxIziZZVA0c0f). I have all the points in Arcane now, and building through the rest in Frost. (I'm currently working through 64).

Ultra-mana-efficient with lots of pwn. With ~+515 damage, standard Frostbolt hits at 1100 and crits at 2450, which happens a lot with Molten Armor and Moonkin Aura. (Keep in mind, Mage Armor is WAY more mana-efficient than Molten Armor, so it depends on the situation).

It helps to have a Moonkin (Vicky) glued to my hip while leveling. :)

Back when I was super-frost spec'd, I loved Improved CoC working in conjunction with Shatter...with all those other frost talents for +damage, that is. :) I like Ice Floes too. BTW, if you choose the Imp. Bliz. route, NEVER put more than 2 points into it. With 3 points, the slow effect is greater than that of CoC, so you can't extend the slow caused by blizzard by following up with a CoC.

I've sacrificed Ice Block in the past, and find I can "live" without it. :P

[Reason]

My mage's inteded 70 build: 40/0/21 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Ri0E00czxIziZZVA0c0f). I have all the points in Arcane now, and building through the rest in Frost. (I'm currently working through 64).



No Ice Block? No Imp Counter Spell? How about this at level 70... 40/0/21 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=Rf0y0ofzxIziZZVi0c0f0o)

[Crackotage]

That works too! I like it. :)

I'm just the type that loves to min/max my (sustained) damage output at the expense of all else.

I found ICS is more useful in PvP than in PvE, where I spend most of my time on my mage. Ice Block? Again, min/max here. I've lived without it for half a year, and can continue to do so. Don't get me wrong, I loved both when I had them...but...again...min/max. :D

[Ambryana]

Here's what I'm heading for on my mage: 10/0/49 (http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=of0VZZVAGcofxsiox).

If you stay full frost spec, improved cone of cold is wonderful coupled with shatter.