Mann Vs Machine Update

**The Mighty Gerbil** · August 18th, 2012, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Wolfeman

Oh bother

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Tek Gamesevers has confirmed the rate is locked so we can change. I just need to get your ok. I'm not sure how it works or if we will get a full billing cycle if we change it now but better to change it before interest wanes.

Edit: Of course the longer we wait the more stable the update becomes XD .

**Tek7** · August 18th, 2012, 08:43 PM

I don't know if MvM will be popular long enough to justify another $5 a month. But if you or others are willing to spend the money and if you have it in writing from GS that our rate is locked in, you're welcome to upgrade.

And yes, the link you posted to the Support ToJ page is still current.

**Wolfeman** · August 18th, 2012, 09:59 PM

It's an interesting game mode but ends up feeling like grinding. Bots really aren't smart enough to make it fun over and over and over. If they pulled a L4D move and let real humans play the bot it would be a lot more fun. That would take some tweaking of bot HP but would make 32 slot servers a lot more useful. It's fun a few times with a group of friends but things like the tank health dictate you have to play certain classes and makes the game too predictable.

**The Mighty Gerbil** · August 19th, 2012, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by Wolfeman

It's an interesting game mode but ends up feeling like grinding. Bots really aren't smart enough to make it fun over and over and over. If they pulled a L4D move and let real humans play the bot it would be a lot more fun. That would take some tweaking of bot HP but would make 32 slot servers a lot more useful. It's fun a few times with a group of friends but things like the tank health dictate you have to play certain classes and makes the game too predictable.

Ditto. It needs to have adaptive or random elements added. L4D works better because you don't know the enemy spawn points on the map. In MVM everything appears to be pretty much out in the open. It does have a difficulty setting though I've heard it makes the AI aim absurd which should never the way to make a difficultly level harder.

I need to go play a few more games to properly assess the game mode before buying into it.

**The Mighty Gerbil** · August 20th, 2012, 09:55 AM

It's set up. Play it to your heart's content until September 10th when we go back to a 24 man server.

1. Our server will be running Mann vs Machine for a bit, except on Tuesday.
2. Password while in MVM mode is Godrules .
3. You are welcome to start games and invite friends, whom you know can behave, but the player limit is 6.
4. You cannot get the new item drops playing this mode unless you play it on an official Valve server, pay for a ticket and even then the item you get may not be a new one. You can get regular drops on our server.

Admins all you need do to change modes is type either of these in console...

sm_rcon exec mvm.cfg
sm_rcon exec regular.cfg

Map will change with config. Play mvm maps while on mvm config and regular maps while on regular config only.

**saudi** · August 20th, 2012, 10:24 PM

haha nice. I have been rconing for the past few days since its in quickplay and it fills up rather quickly. The trolls. They are abundant in number. Lots of 1 day bans, lots of kicks, and a few permabans.

**The Mighty Gerbil** · August 21st, 2012, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by saudi

haha nice. I have been rconing for the past few days since its in quickplay and it fills up rather quickly. The trolls. They are abundant in number. Lots of 1 day bans, lots of kicks, and a few permabans.

Password should have disqualified it for quick play, adding tf_server_identity_disable_quickplay now.

**Wolfeman** · August 21st, 2012, 03:46 PM

I think he was talking about when it's in regular map mode and not MvM. Before you set it up.

**saudi** · August 22nd, 2012, 11:22 PM

Yeah it was before you set it up. Like it was on regular maps. I don't mind so much but now that school is starting, I have to see what the routine will be now. After the update but before the 20th when the server was just rotating and going through map votes.

**The Mighty Gerbil** · August 23rd, 2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by saudi

Yeah it was before you set it up. Like it was on regular maps. I don't mind so much but now that school is starting, I have to see what the routine will be now. After the update but before the 20th when the server was just rotating and going through map votes.

It's great you cast an eye on it every now and then but don't sweat it Saudi. Trolls will be trolls and none of us can be there continually.

Oddly enough the Valve mailing list mentioned (after you did) quick play was sending people to password protected MVM servers but they supposedly fixed that now.

The regular server rotation never should have been in quick play due to having crits disabled (though I actually wanted it to be). Any trolls you see must have come there manually from the browser.