Dark Virtue
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I ran across this list at christiananswers.net and I thought I'd answer them for those on this board to help you understand my mindset. The list is long, so my answers will be short, if you'd like to discuss them further, I'll be happy to oblige.
Here we go:
Natural Law & Evolution (micro, not macro)
The same way I account for the vast archaeological documentation of the Enuma Elish and various other religious texts.
I don't believe this is a correct statement. Many "prophecies" are very vague and don't match properly the events attributed to them. Also, there is the problem of changing the texts to make them match real events.
While the physical manuscripts are real, that doesn't mean they aren't more than the retelling of a myth.
Absolutely.
No, for two reasons. One, I don't believe Pascal's Wager is intellectually honest and two, assuming I am wrong, would God really want me to convert just to be safe and not because I actually care about him?
Because the figure we know today as Jesus is a compilation of many different figures resulting in a mythical character.
Again, I believe Jesus is a mythified figure.
Misuse of the term "universally".
From society. It evolves as man has evolved.
Humanity's universal moral sense as noted in the question above.
I don't buy into macro evolution, so the first part of this question is moot. Science has shown that chaos is actually the highest form of order. Google mandlebrot as an example.
The entire story is a myth.
Because the figure we know as Jesus today is an amalgameted myth.
There have been many great thinkers that weren't believers. Am I to assume that the question means that the MAJORITY of history's greatest thinkers were CHRISTIAN believers?
Not as arrogant as it is to suggest that many people believed at one time that the earth was flat and that Zeus was responsible for thunder and lightning.
I don't account for the origin of life because I don't have the necessary evidence to postulate a cause. I don't need to make one up to make my life have meaning.
Again, I don't believe in Macro Evolution
Why? Why not? The Bible also said that Christ would return IN THE LIFETIME of his contemporaries.
On the same basis that every other religion base themselves.
It depends on what definition of TRUTH is being used.
This question assumes that I harbor an unbelief in God. As a weak atheist, I lack the belief in gods due to a lack of evidence/proof.
Absolutely.
The same way I explain the radically changed lives of other religous devotees.
This is an incorrect statement.
They are subjective works that lack objectability.
Because the early Christian church squashed any and all competitors by any means necessary.
Who said it wasn't absurd?
Another incorrect statement. See Mithras as an example.
The story is a myth. The "evidence" set forth is hardly irrefutable.
The story is a myth.
The story is a myth.
The story is a myth.
There was no testimony of 500 witnesses! What we have is the authored story of 500 witnesses, not the testimony of 500 witnesses.
Jesus is a mythical figure.
Incorrect statement, God definately changes as evidenced by his portrayal in the Bible.
As stated above, I not only do not have an unbelief in God, but I have not rejected him. What I have is a lack of evidence to make an assesment to his existence/nonexistence.
Incorrect statement. These men didn't set out to create one book, this book was edited from many, many sources and created to appear as a unified message. Google the Council of Nicea.
The Creator set forth in the DoI was a naturalistic Deity, as most of the framers were Deists of one flavor or another. No evidence supports this referred to the Christian God.
Science is not a "faith" system because it IS observable and verifiable.
Because theology is a construct of man to answer questions man couldn't answer themselves.
I don't.
If everything requires a creator, then who created God (the creator)? This is the problem with Intelligent Design and creates the problem of Infinite Regression.
Incontrovertible proof/evidence of the existence of a god.
Here we go:
How do you explain the high degree of design and order in the universe?
Natural Law & Evolution (micro, not macro)
How do you account for the vast archaeological documentation of Biblical stories, places, and people?
The same way I account for the vast archaeological documentation of the Enuma Elish and various other religious texts.
Since absolutely no Bible prophecy has ever failed (and there are hundreds), how can one realistically remain unconvinced that the Bible is of Divine origin?
I don't believe this is a correct statement. Many "prophecies" are very vague and don't match properly the events attributed to them. Also, there is the problem of changing the texts to make them match real events.
How can anyone doubt the reliability of Scripture considering the number and proximity to originals of its many copied manuscripts?
While the physical manuscripts are real, that doesn't mean they aren't more than the retelling of a myth.
Are you able to live consistently with your present worldview?
Absolutely.
Wouldn't it make better sense, even pragmatically, to live as though the God of the Bible does exist than as though He doesn't?
No, for two reasons. One, I don't believe Pascal's Wager is intellectually honest and two, assuming I am wrong, would God really want me to convert just to be safe and not because I actually care about him?
In what sense was Jesus a 'Good Man' if He was lying in His claim to be God?
Because the figure we know today as Jesus is a compilation of many different figures resulting in a mythical character.
Do you think that Jesus was misguided in affirming the truthfulness of Scripture, i.e. John 10:35, Matthew 24, Luke 24:44?
Again, I believe Jesus is a mythified figure.
If the Bible is not true, why is it so universally regarded as the 'Good Book'?
Misuse of the term "universally".
From whence comes humanity's universal moral sense?
From society. It evolves as man has evolved.
If man is nothing but the random arrangement of molecules, what motivates you to care and to live honorably in the world?
Humanity's universal moral sense as noted in the question above.
Explain how personality could have ever evolved from the impersonal, or how order could have ever resulted from chaos.
I don't buy into macro evolution, so the first part of this question is moot. Science has shown that chaos is actually the highest form of order. Google mandlebrot as an example.
If Jesus' resurrection was faked, why would twelve intelligent men (Jesus' disciples) have died for what they knew to be a lie?
The entire story is a myth.
How do you explain the fact that a single, relatively uneducated and virtually untraveled man, dead at age 33, radically changed lives and society to this day?
Because the figure we know as Jesus today is an amalgameted myth.
Why have so many of history's greatest thinkers been believers? Have you ever wondered why thousands of intelligent scientists, living and dead, have been men and women of great faith?
There have been many great thinkers that weren't believers. Am I to assume that the question means that the MAJORITY of history's greatest thinkers were CHRISTIAN believers?
Isn't it somewhat arrogant to suggest that countless churches and people (including men like Abraham Lincoln) are all radically in error in their view of the Bible?
Not as arrogant as it is to suggest that many people believed at one time that the earth was flat and that Zeus was responsible for thunder and lightning.
How do you account for the origin of life considering the irreducible complexity of its essential components?
I don't account for the origin of life because I don't have the necessary evidence to postulate a cause. I don't need to make one up to make my life have meaning.
How can the Second Law of Thermodynamics be reconciled with progressive, naturalistic evolutionary theory?
Again, I don't believe in Macro Evolution
Why does the Bible alone, of all of the world's 'holy' books, contain such detailed prophecies of future events?
Why? Why not? The Bible also said that Christ would return IN THE LIFETIME of his contemporaries.
On what basis can the Bible (interpreted as per historic Christian orthodoxy) be challenged as a sole, final truth-standard (Galatians 1:8)?
On the same basis that every other religion base themselves.
Is it absolutely true that "truth is not absolute" or only relatively true that "all things are relative?"
It depends on what definition of TRUTH is being used.
Is it possible that your unbelief in God is actually an unwillingness to submit to Him?
This question assumes that I harbor an unbelief in God. As a weak atheist, I lack the belief in gods due to a lack of evidence/proof.
Does your present worldview provide you with an adequate sense of meaning and purpose?
Absolutely.
How do you explain the radically changed lives of so many Christian believers down through history?
The same way I explain the radically changed lives of other religous devotees.
Are you aware that every alleged Bible contradiction has been answered in an intelligible and credible manner?
This is an incorrect statement.
What do you say about the hundreds of scholarly books that carefully document the veracity and reliability of the Bible?
They are subjective works that lack objectability.
Why and how has the Bible survived and even flourished in spite of centuries of worldwide attempts to destroy and ban its message?
Because the early Christian church squashed any and all competitors by any means necessary.
Why isn't it absurd to try to speak or even conceive of a non-existent 'God' when an existing God would, by definition, be greater?
Who said it wasn't absurd?
Have you ever considered the fact that Christianity is the only religion whose leader is said to have risen from the dead?
Another incorrect statement. See Mithras as an example.
How do you explain the empty tomb of Jesus in light of all the evidence that has now proven essentially irrefutable for twenty centuries?
The story is a myth. The "evidence" set forth is hardly irrefutable.
If Jesus did not actually die and rise from the dead, how could He (in His condition) have circumvented all of the security measures in place at His tomb?
The story is a myth.
If the authorities stole Jesus' body, why? Why would they have perpetrated the very scenario that they most wanted to prevent?
The story is a myth.
If Jesus merely resuscitated in the tomb, how did He deal with the Roman guard posted just outside its entrance?
The story is a myth.
How can one realistically discount the testimony of over 500 witnesses to a living Jesus following His crucifixion (see 1 Corinthians 15:6)?
There was no testimony of 500 witnesses! What we have is the authored story of 500 witnesses, not the testimony of 500 witnesses.
If all of Jesus' claims to be God were the result of His own self-delusion, why didn't He evidence lunacy in any other areas of His life?
Jesus is a mythical figure.
# If God is unchanging, wouldn't it be true that one who changes by suddenly "realizing" that he/she is 'God' therefore isn't God?
Incorrect statement, God definately changes as evidenced by his portrayal in the Bible.
Is your unbelief in a perfect God possibly the result of a bad experience with an imperfect Church or a misunderstanding of the facts, and therefore an unfair rejection of God Himself?
As stated above, I not only do not have an unbelief in God, but I have not rejected him. What I have is a lack of evidence to make an assesment to his existence/nonexistence.
How did 35-40 men, spanning 1500 years and living on three separate continents, ever manage to author one unified message, i.e. the Bible?
Incorrect statement. These men didn't set out to create one book, this book was edited from many, many sources and created to appear as a unified message. Google the Council of Nicea.
Would you charge the Declaration of Independence with error in affirming that "all men are endowed by their Creator..."?
The Creator set forth in the DoI was a naturalistic Deity, as most of the framers were Deists of one flavor or another. No evidence supports this referred to the Christian God.
Because life origins are not observable, verifiable, or falsifiable, how does historical 'science' amount to anything more than just another faith system?
Science is not a "faith" system because it IS observable and verifiable.
What do you make of all the anthropological studies indicating that even the most remote tribes show some sort of theological awareness?
Because theology is a construct of man to answer questions man couldn't answer themselves.
Why subscribe to the incredible odds that the tilt and position of our planet relative to the sun are merely coincidental?
I don't.
If every effect has a cause, and if God Himself is the universe (i.e. is one with the universe, as some non-Christians suggest), what or who then caused the universe?
If everything requires a creator, then who created God (the creator)? This is the problem with Intelligent Design and creates the problem of Infinite Regression.
What would be required to persuade you to become a believer?
Incontrovertible proof/evidence of the existence of a god.