Selecting service providers that do not allow adult content

Moderator's note: This abridged post and the two that follow were copied from the Dedicated server: Rental or buy with colocation? thread.

As for the server hosting inappropriate content (saw your other thread), well what does it matter to us? Our section of it is clean. What does it matter how far away physically the content you don't want is? The 'inapproperate content', as far as the internet is concerned, takes maybe 0.0000001ms longer to load than if it was hosted right in the same room. However for some of us who don't see it that way and count actual distances, then the only option would be to buy your own server. On the same less than 100cm thick fibre optic cable, there is lots of... stuff I don't agree with floating around, and I'm not going to build my own internets just to avoid sharing it with those other religions/cults.

silverleaf said:

As for the server hosting inappropriate content (saw your other thread), well what does it matter to us?

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It matters to us because we don't want to financially support a company that derives any portions of its profits from hosting pornography. Porn destroys lives and we want to be customers of companies that understand that (or at least don't help spread porn).

Think of it as speaking our conscience with our wallets.

Since I'm not the one paying, it's your choice. However just saying I wouldn't go all out of my way just to avoid a business that does anything for everyone. 7 eleven sells porn amongst a ton of other things, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. However if it was a porno joint selling candy bars, I'd get my candy bars somewhere else. Don't know what your issue with porn is, you seem to have strong feelings. Maybe you are actually married. If I ever get married I'd be pretty mad if my partner was lookin at porn. However for the 40 year old virgins in the world, I'd say go for it, so long as they don't fantasize about sleeping with person X and that it is a picture of their future wife. Heck, blur the face. Unnamed FTW, easier to work around there. It isn't ideal, but some people don't have the slightest chance of getting married So they arn't technically fantasizing about sleeping with 1000 women. Just one. Which will probably never happen for them. I'm not going to discuss such an inflammatory and controversal topic, so it's just my view, lets agree to disagree. Isn't adultery if its one unmarried women, whether she exists or not (preferably does not exist)

silverleaf said:

Since I'm not the one paying, it's your choice. However just saying I wouldn't go all out of my way just to avoid a business that does anything for everyone. 7 eleven sells porn amongst a ton of other things, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

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Are you suggesting that there's no sin in obtaining monetary gain from selling pornography?

If so, your viewpoint is contrary to Scripture.

silverleaf said:

However if it was a porno joint selling candy bars, I'd get my candy bars somewhere else. Don't know what your issue with porn is, you seem to have strong feelings. Maybe you are actually married. If I ever get married I'd be pretty mad if my partner was lookin at porn.

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I am married, but that's irrelevant to the conversation. Lust is sin, regardless of one's season of life.

silverleaf said:

However for the 40 year old virgins in the world, I'd say go for it

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If I'm understanding correctly, you're advocating virgins viewing pornography. Is this correct?

If so, again, your viewpoint is contrary to Scripture.

silverleaf said:

It isn't ideal, but some people don't have the slightest chance of getting married

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And some people are called to remain single and abstinent in service to the Lord.

The issue isn't whether a person is perceived as "smart" or "pretty" or "handsome" enough to find a spouse. The issue, in many cases, is that Christians wait for the spouse that God places in their lives or, if God calls them to remain single and celibate, to obey that call.

silverleaf said:

So they arn't technically fantasizing about sleeping with 1000 women. Just one. Which will probably never happen for them.

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The issue for the person who chooses to remain single in service to the Lord is not whether they can find a partner with which to have sex, but rather their intentional choice not to seek sex.

silverleaf said:

I'm not going to discuss such an inflammatory and controversal topic, so it's just my view, lets agree to disagree.

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I can not, in good conscience, "agree to disagree" on a point so clearly explained in Scripture and a sin so damaging in the American church and American society. I said it in a previous post and it bears repeating: Pornography destroys lives. This is not hyperbole; it is simple fact.

Spend any length of time reading the Breaking Free blog at the Covenant Eyes web site and you'll find stories of men and women whose lives were devastated by pornography.

Pornography is not a harmless indulgence. Pornography is an incredibly destructive force in the lives of many Christian men and women.

To be frank, I'm surprised that I need to explain this to another Christian.

silverleaf said:

Isn't adultery if its one unmarried women, whether she exists or not (preferably does not exist)

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Lust is sin, regardless of its subject, regardless whether that subject's name is known or unknown, and regardless whether the subject is real, animated or otherwise fabricated.

Lust is sin. Scripture is abundantly clear on this point.

The reason we refuse to financially support a business that profits from the proliferation of pornographic content is simple: We do not want the dollars members donate to support lustful activities. We do not want our money supporting sin. To spend money members donate without considering the character of the business receiving that money would constitute negligence on the part of staff.

While I understand that it may not be possible to speak this conviction with our money in all facets of life, this is one situation where we can easily ask a service provider, "Do you allow adult content hosting?" and base our decision whether or not to patronize that business on the business's answer.

silverleaf, we have had similar discussions before under What Does God Say About...

Some of the things you are stating are not simply a different interpretation of scripture - they are unbiblical - contrary to scripture. Porn is consistently and specifically cited as detrimental to a Christian lifestyle and to be avoided in any form.

But you can’t say that our bodies were made for sexual immorality. They were made for the Lord, and the Lord cares about our bodies. 1 Corinthians 6:13 (NLT)

The Greek word translated "sexual immorality" is porneia - where we get the word "porn".

I will assume you just have not read these portions of scripture. I'd hate to think that you just decided they don't apply to you.

Abba san, believe I sent you a PM apologizing for my actions there, wasn't aware that secular ideals that can be interpreted contrary to biblical values weren't permitted there. I'll leave those threads alone as I certainly don't live a very holy life, I'm just an ordinary person who tries to do what's right when I can but am not prepared to go all outta my way just yet. If I can help someone, do some good, donate to a good cause I do it, but not ready to change my entire life. I'm not aiming to live a completely blameless life avoiding everyone who deals with things I don't agree with, I'm just trying to be as holy as feasible without sacrificing too much. I won't enter an adult store, but I won't not buy my candy bars from 7/11 just cos they sell porn because doing so will narrow down my shopping options to just a very few shops scattered around the whole place. Same thing, think of your server bandwidth as my candy bars.


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If you rent from someone who specializes in hosting games, you will likely get it cheap, and good, low latency service. We don't need 1000 games running at once, so it shouldn't cost much. And as they deal exclusively with games, doubt they would be hosting adult content either. But as they are unlikely to be moral crusaders and are ordinary pragmatic folk like me, I doubt they would go out of their way to find a service provider that doesn't host inappropriate content, because as far as I know, there are none. Hosts have to host Islamic, Buddhist, Hindu, Scientology content as well, they can't discriminate or its lawsuit time.


NOTE: Making posts like this can get me ostracized and likely excluded from the community really really fast. I learn't to NOT voice my half baked opinions on controversial topics the hard way, getting bashed outta game communities for voicing unpopular opinions, getting the banhammer from people who disagree enough. This is a Christian forum, on the internet. Debating it here isn't going to work very well, and I realized this topic could get rather hot. I don't want a PM from a moderator or worse infarcs or bans. Also, there are once again many people expressing many opinions on these topics, and it is very controversial, which will stir up a flame war, and there's nothing I hate more than seeing Christians fighting Christians and I don't want to instigate that with my words, as I believe that would be wrong, if not a sin. I want to help build this community, not help divide it so please don't call me out again in this thread as I wish to keep quiet .