Zul Gurub January 15 2008

[Avesther]

Thank you to all who came and being patient with this cold I have. Its one of those where every joint hurts, every muscle group hurts, moving hurts, not moving hurts, standing hurts, sitting hurts, laying hurts.

I'm thinking that once a month I'm going to pick an old world raid instance and run it. The following are all the old world instances:

1. AQ20 - No attunement required
2. ZG - No attunement required
3. Onyxia - Lengthy quest chains required for attunement
4. MC - Simple single quest required for attunement
5. BWL - Single quest required for attunement
6. AQ40 - No attunement required
7. Naxx - You have to purchase attunement - likely not be doing Naxx, I don't think anybody in the ugild is well versed in the instance and alot of people aren't going to be willing to spend repair money on learning it. You never know.

 

[Chinatown]

8. Avesther

 

[Goblit]

8. Avesther

You calling Avesther old? 'cause I'm older than him...and I take offence by the inference that he is old.....

 

[Chinatown]

no i want to raid avesther

 

[Avesther]

I don't drop any good loot, not even vendorable junk.

 

[Lloren]

I'm not attuned for Avesther. The rep quests are too hard.

 

[Chinatown]

AVESTHER down WOOT T0.5 Chess dropped

 

[Odale]

Woot AQ40!!!

 

[Avesther]

We can't do BWL unless everybody has the Onyxia Scale Cloak

 

[Where]

plenty of scales in the bank, or at least there was hehe

 

[Gilga]

Actually not too many, generally capes were crafted as soon as we got the drops. There are maybe 6 left, I think. It's a catch-22 ... while Ony is a quick raid and fast loot, the attunement is a marathon and trying to get BRD and UBRS groups together is a pretty futile endeavor.

So while we could prolly reliably down Ony with 15-20 folks spending an hour a week, those 15-20 folks wouldn't be able to use any of the drops ... and the folks who could use the drops wouldn't be attuned.

While I love the idea of a BWL pwning just to get past that, um, pesky suppression room ... sticking to ZG/AQ20/AQ40 is probably the best course for getting the best of both worlds: nostalgia/new content for old players and raiding experience/cool drops for new players.

 

[Where]

I wouldnt mind a 18 slot bag or two

 

[Gilga]

Actually, y'know, I think what killed the Redeemed weekly Ony runs was the advent of daily quests. Why schlep all the way to Duskwallow Marsh for 20g off Ony when you can pick up 50g in an hour with the dailies?

 

[Where]

18 slot bags... hehe

 

[Gilga]

I think I get your point, Where, but I'm just a little vague ... could you explain in detail one more time?

 

[Where]

18 slot bags?

 

[Where]

or was it the 18 slot bags?

 

[CGamer]

I recently finished the Onyxia quest chain w/ Theros and he is BWL attuned also.