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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    widowson that is such a poor argument that I have no idea why you would even try to bring it up. Have you even thought it through? You know what? There are sterile people born ALL the time. They, just like homosexual people, cannot reproduce. According to your flawed logic, such people should...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    And you might want to think about learning something about genetics to relieve yourself of your ignorance, widowson. Take a class, read a book, do something. Ultima, I know there is no way we will agree on this matter but I believe that things like experiences, situational factors, and other...
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    Heaven or Hell?

    Yes, I do believe that there probably is a moral standard to go by. I can only follow the Bible says and hope that it's true, but there is no way for me to be certain about the veracity of what is written in the Bible, especially considering the many inconsistencies and inaccuracies that I...
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    Heaven or Hell?

    By Jew I meant an adherent to Judaism as a religion, so any talk of any beliefs or teachings that are not part of the Torah is irrelevant here. So you want everyone to understand that there can only be one standard by which man can be judged, huh Ultima? Fine. Now go convince everyone that the...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    Ultima, genetics and the choices one makes are probably much more interrelated than you think. Fighting certain impulses are going to be easier for some than others, and some people are going to have urges that other people don't. You don't think that might have anything to do with a person's...
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    Heaven or Hell?

    Would you expect a Jew to say, "Well, you know, I'm not a Christian and Christians say the only way to God is through Christ, so I guess I'm going to hell." Come on, if someone believes something they must believe that they are right. A Jew doesn't accept Jesus as the Messiah so why should he...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    Even if sexual preference wasn't genetic, that doesn't mean it has to be a choice. Other possible factors that could determine sexual preference could be a person's experiences or maybe some type of mental pathology. As for people who are into bestiality - I think they are probably just not...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    Ultima, you state that a person can choose the object of their sexual attraction. I guess this must mean that anyone can become sexually attracted to chairs or fish so long as they want to be. Yeah, maybe tomorrow I will go and get it on with a tree. I just have to tell myself that trees are...
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    Gay Episcopal Bishop

    Ultima, if you really believe that you could go from being a heterosexual one day to a homosexual the next then perhaps this speaks to your true sexual orientation.
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    Whoah I agree with the vatican!

    I don't really think it's anyone's place to judge if Bush is a "true" Christian, especially if you really don't know him. Let God be the judge of that.
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    Capital Punishment

    What I mean is that according to Christian thought, we always have the power to choose right or wrong, God or Satan, i.e. we are free to make our own decisions and free to perform any actions we choose. Saying that things that happen in our lives must be God's will or they must be part of God's...
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    Capital Punishment

    Come on, God's will? A lot of conservative Christians like to say things happen for a reason, it is God's will, that he is watching over us, guiding us, etc... and then you turn around and say we have free will to do as we like. That smacks of double-think to me.
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    scientists explain the burning bushes!

    Ultima if you propose that creation should also be taught in schools then what is to stop others from coming along and saying that we should be taught about how the human race was started by aliens, or about human devolution, or about some other story of creation? I'm sure if these groups all...
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    Science: Evolution, life on Mars etc.

    Well, Timor, you may not respond to what I am going to write here but I will still say what is on my mind anyway because I'm sure you will still read it. Maybe someone else who shares your views will choose to respond. So then what is it that you believe regarding people who are sick or...
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    Science: Evolution, life on Mars etc.

    Well, Timor, I don't suppose that all those parts about Jesus driving the demons out of the sick, blind, and invalids were untrue. It has been well proven that they are indeed possessed by evil demons and that is why they are the way they are. This is probably also the explanation for why people...
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    interesting thing READ inside

    I would agree that the intention behind the word is what is important. But that doesn't matter to most of the people who are offended by "swearing" because they have this idea ingrained in their heads that there are certain "bad" words you shouldn't ever say, no matter what the context is. There...
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    Science: Evolution, life on Mars etc.

    Bringer, you are exactly right. A Christian who is honest with himself should be able to admit his mistakes just the same as any other man, but many Evangelical/Conservative Christians will stop at nothing to defend the Bible and every word that is written within it. They will not alter their...
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    Why I don't Beleave in any man made religion.

    Kidan, I would like to ask this question: are there any parts of the Bible (Old Testament or New) that you believe to be untrue or inaccurate?
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    Why I don't Beleave in any man made religion.

    So Kidan, before you became a Christian what were your beliefs about the origins of the Earth, evolution, and such?
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    Why I don't Beleave in any man made religion.

    Kidan, I will take a look at some of those papers you listed when I get the chance. However, I will only be considering the ones written in publications I know where I can be sure the paper has been peer reviewed and is based on sound scientific protocols. I am not going to read papers that are...
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