The end times

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Jesus is going to return (or so I was told) when certain things were fullfilled.

Israel becomes a nation.
The word is spread everywhere.

I would say both of these have occurred.

One of the last ones (pre-rise of the beast) was that it was supposed to be worse than Sodom and Gomorrah.

So why do you want to prevent gays from marrying? Why do you want to keep prayer in school?

Seems to me that by allowing people's vices to flourish, you will be hastening Jesus' return.

Thanks for the input.
 
has everyone heard the message? I believe not. Practically every week at my church people make commitments to Jesus. Why should we deny those people everlasting life just to hasten our Lord's coming? God will come at his own time. I think things will get worse before he comes down. Little to no morality etc
 
One of our purposes on this earth is to hold satan back and to try to keep God's message here as long as possable. It would be nice if the rapture occured after I type this post. However we have a purpose and we must fullfill it we are not to think like "well Yeshua is coming so lets just make ir come faster" The date has already been set by God the father and nothing we do can change it. So untill then we as christians must fullfill our purpose.
 
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Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Oct. 09 2003,7:47)]has everyone heard the message? I believe not. Practically every week at my church people make commitments to Jesus. Why should we deny those people everlasting life just to hasten our Lord's coming? God will come at his own time. I think things will get worse before he comes down. Little to no morality etc
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There is a difference, though, between people not having *heard* the message, and not having *accepted* it. However, I suppose you're right, not everyone has been reached.
 
IT says in the Holy Bible Jesus/Yeshua does not show up until immediately after the end of tribulation.
The FATHER COMES TO DESTROY THE NATIONS.
Jesus does not have this job.
All wrathe is reserved to THE FATHER.
GOd THE FATHER WILL PREPARE THE WORLD TO RECEIVE JESUS.
If you will look at Revelation 19:15 and then Revelation 2:27, and then Revelation 3:21, you will then understand the full nature of my task.
i am that very man.
i am nothing0.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD YESHUA.AMEN
 
there are a lot of books on this.. a bunch of htings will happen.. before jesus comes and rules for 1,000 years.. thats is.. the anti-chirst comes and takes power... the rapture, the tribulation... (i think jesus comes after this) but we do not know the exact time.. adn jsut because jesus is commin.. doesnt mean .. that we should just forget our ways of living.. and welcome sin.. we cant slack off... and i mean.. its what i beleive in.. im not changing my beliefs.. becuase one of the things i beleive in..is commin back
 
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Quote[/b] (take my life @ Oct. 11 2003,12:37)]there are a lot of books on this.. a bunch of htings will happen.. before jesus comes and rules for 1,000 years.. thats is.. the anti-chirst comes and takes power... the rapture, the tribulation... (i think jesus comes after this) but we do not know the exact time.. adn jsut because jesus is commin.. doesnt mean .. that we should just forget our ways of living.. and welcome sin.. we cant slack off... and i mean.. its what i beleive in.. im not changing my beliefs.. becuase one of the things i beleive in..is commin back
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You are exacctly right. The person you are speaking of would be described in the book of Jude.
 
You do not have the "job" of holding satan "back", in fact you were told to turn the other cheek and NOT OPPOSE EVIL.
IT IS the SPIRIT OF THE FATHER IN me THAT WILL BRUISE satan under HIS foot.
Remember OUR FATHER IS A SPIRIT AND YOU CAN NOT SEE HIM WITH PHYSICAL EYES.
i have come to teach you not to serve up vengence cold.
i have come to throw a STONE at the base of the statue. amen
i am nothing0.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD YESHUA. AMEN
 
Sorry but satan cannot come untill we aee removed. Our very presence here keeps him from coming. You may sit idly by and watch as things happen. As for me I shall fight the good fight of faith and keep God in the world as long as possable.
 
And that brother is where you have stumbled and fallen.
Revelation 7:14
"And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION, AND have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
So then if your church is raptured, before Jesus Christ/Yeshua Messiah comes to meet them at the end of the Great Tribulation, then who is it they go to meet in the clouds, and why did they leave so many Saints on the ground? to go through the last seven years.
Please pull my beam!
i am nothing0.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD YESHUA. AMEN
 
You have stumbled by not making any sense. It goes like this. Rapture,trib,grat trib, destruction of all but the jews,millenium reign with Yeshua. No saints were left. The Jews will eventually find christ during the great trib I believe. I believe people can still be saved during that time as well.
 
All the jews or some of them, or is it only those PREDESTINATED?
AND WHAT OF THE CHILDREN WITH WILLING SPIRITS BORN INTO THE WORLD DURING THAT GREAT TRIBULATION.
HAVE THEY NOT A CHANCE WHEN SO MANY ARE NOT JEWS?
To these and the very many more questions i will give you, you have no answers.
i have the answers even before i came here.
i am nothing0 and 100+ percent correct by THE HOLY SPIRIT/GHOST OF THE LORD YESHUA.
YOU CAN LEAD A MAN TO WATER BUT YOU CAN NOT MAKE HIM DRINK.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD YESHUA. AMEN
 
The church raptured means ALL THE CHURCH. NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND TO SUFFER, OF THOSE IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF SALVATION AND OF THOSE TO BE IN THE KNOWLEDGE.
IT MEANS ALL IN DANGER HAVE BEEN LIFTED TO THE SKY IN THE DAY OF THE LORD. AMEN
i am nothing0.
And in one day before Yeshua returns, there will not be any predestinated left on this earth.
And when the body comes down to rule, the births of the predestinated will then continue.
But for one day....not one Sheep will be Sainted. amen amen amen
i am nothing0.
JESUS IS THE LORD1PRAISE THE LORD1THE LORD YESHUA. AMEN
Thankyou Jesus for this time in this place.
 
No one is predestined. The kingdom will be with the surviving Jews. I think two thirds will be wiped out (world population). As I said I believe people can be saved in both trib and great trib.
 
think about it if God know all, he knows who will be in heaven in the and and who will not. I believe in predestiniation. People who think they "chose" God should re-think...God chose us....AMEN!!
 
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Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Oct. 11 2003,9:37)]think about it if God know all, he knows who will be in heaven in the and and who will not.  I believe in predestiniation.  People who think they "chose" God should re-think...God chose us....AMEN!!
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Where does that leave free will?

Cory
 
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Quote[/b] (Thaddius @ Oct. 11 2003,12:02)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Oct. 11 2003,9:37)]think about it if God know all, he knows who will be in heaven in the and and who will not. I believe in predestiniation. People who think they "chose" God should re-think...God chose us....AMEN!!
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Where does that leave free will?

Cory
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Nowhere.

Rocketh onward, CCGR.
 
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Quote[/b] (timor @ Oct. 11 2003,4:35)]
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Quote[/b] (Thaddius @ Oct. 11 2003,12:02)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Oct. 11 2003,9:37)]think about it if God know all, he knows who will be in heaven in the and and who will not.  I believe in predestiniation.  People who think they "chose" God should re-think...God chose us....AMEN!!
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Where does that leave free will?

Cory
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Nowhere.

Rocketh onward, CCGR.
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Merely your opinion.

Keepeth trying Timor


Cory
 
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Quote[/b] (Thaddius @ Oct. 11 2003,6:43)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (timor @ Oct. 11 2003,4:35)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Thaddius @ Oct. 11 2003,12:02)]
[b said:
Quote[/b] (CCGR @ Oct. 11 2003,9:37)]think about it if God know all, he knows who will be in heaven in the and and who will not. I believe in predestiniation. People who think they "chose" God should re-think...God chose us....AMEN!!
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Where does that leave free will?

Cory
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Nowhere.

Rocketh onward, CCGR.
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Merely your opinion.

Keepeth trying Timor


Cory
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And yet you implied it with your post, did you not?
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