The Raiding Hunter??

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FiremanThul

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Ok.. Here's where I'm at.

I never did anything past UBRS pre-bc, so I have no raiding experience. Even with UBRS I was there as a mage. Obviously my hunter is now my main, and he's been BM since level 10.

My initial reading of the Kaz thread made me think "meh I don't wanna play with hardcore gamers.. they're generally too picky". The more I thought about it, combined with doing seth halls, arcatraz, labs, and mech (all successful runs, nice job everyone!!) in the last two days, getting some more gear, and numerous in game conversations with Adam and John Sr made me decide that I want to be one of the raiders. I want to gear/spec/play as an effective raider.

So here's my discussion point. I'd love input from all the experienced raiders, hunters and non hunters.

When you see a hunter show up to a raid, what are you expecting from them. What build would you prefer from them, what things would you hope they'd be good at (OT a mob on a healer, pulling trapping off the healer and back to main target, whatever really). What consumables should they be bringing/eating (attack power well fed vs agil well fed, etc). Should I invest the 60+g per pot in the flask of relentless assault, if so, when do I pop it.. These are things I don't know because I've never been to a raid.

For those of you that have been on dungeons with me specifically, what things can I improve on, what things do I do well, how is my dmg compared to other hunters you've been with (adam doesn't count, he could roll a holy priest and out dmg me). Here's my armory details http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Terenas&n=Mogrins how am I stacking up?

I'm going to be reviewing the spec thread adam linked off his thread and see where that fits.. I hope I can stay BM and still be raid effective, I really enjoy it..
 
To get started on this, here are some of the consumables you should have for any 5 man+

Food Buffs:

For Attack Power (generally MM spec) - Ravager Dog

For Agil (generally BM spec for crit %) - Grilled Mudfish

Potions:
Elixir of the Mongoose AND Elixir of Major Agility - These do stack but you must take the Mongoose first then the Major Agility.

This will give you 60 Agility and 48 crit strike rating (approx. 2.17% to crit @ lvl 70) -- Source for rating conversions @ lvl 70

I would not use Flasks unless it was a 10-man. Enchants and Gems to follow up at a later time.
 
FYI We had talked about going back to LBRS/UBRS for the blackhand's breadth. I found a soloable (as a 70 hunter) quest in terrokar which gives http://www.thottbot.com/i3161

5 less crit than the blackhand's, but for a soloable item I'll take it over the hassle of ubrs/lbrs
 
I think ya linked the wrong item. Sent me to a lvl 15 cloth item. I certainly hope a 70 hunter could solo that ;)

Sean
 
I still not sure about the mongoose and agility stacking. I've tried it before and I have seen the two icons show up in my ctbuff but I don't think it increased my agility/crit the extra 25. I must try it again though. And if you've actually noticed the increase let me know.
 
To correct myself, I've never used the Major agility. I only have experience with the greater, sorry for the confusion.
 
Just a tip from my(a rogue's) point of view. When I started looking into raiding I hadn't really farmed the 5-10 man instances. To compensate a little I gathered mats for all the craftable gear I could fine. Topping the gear off with the best enchant helped a lot. Hardcore raiding becomes very costly. In order to keep up you have to have massive amounts of consumables as well as massive amounts of materials. Anyway, atleast you're a hunter and not a rogue. I think huntard's (sp?) are more desired in the heroic's than rogues now. Oh well that's why I rolled a shaman anyway. Good luck man.
 
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