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Our pastor preached a sermon on "The next step" in moral decline. It concerns me quite a bit. One thing is how many have heard of that new bible the TNIV, the bible that is "Politically Correct" so as not to offend anyone. ANywhere it says "man" or "husband" was replaced with "person" or "Spouse",

We have already decided not to follow the bible and ordain women and put them into leadership, and now some churches are switching over to ordination of Homosexuals, saying hte bible was only taking about "Gay" as being a man having sex with more than one other guy. Here was the point that really hit me, how long untill we start seeing sex with children as ok? I mean it is just another step, Right now the Gay rights are fighting hard for "Free Choice" and what not, and 30 years ago if you would have told your fellow humans that "Gays" would be leading our church and accepted we would have told them that is impossible because it is a sin. Same thing 100 years ago, if you would have told them women would lead our church, they would have said thats impossible, the bible says they cant.

So now here is a question, how long until childmolesters are able to run our church?

It is kinda like the boiling frog senario, if you put a frog in water and slowly heat it up, you can kill the frog by boiling him to death, as long as you dont turn the heat up too quickly. I strongly believe we as christians are haivng the water turned up on us slowly and noone want to fight it. because it is just easier to go with the flow.
 
As far as sex between a child and a adult. The ACLU is fighting for that right now and with groups like NAMBLA it wont be long.
 
Manba should change there symble to a target so my sights have something to aim at
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If there was any organization I would be more happy to bomb it would be one. I would feel no guilt for it either
 
Your right, we are commanded not to kill. If someone EVER touches one of my children, I will have to reley on the Grace of God for forgivness for what I do to that person.


I know first hand the damage it does to someone to be molested. I have a zero tolorance policy for people who harm kids.


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the word "murder" in hebrew mean something like.... unjust killing out of anger... protecting your family.. is ok.. you arent supposed to just watch hem get hurt.. but.. there is a big difference.. between.. holing someone back froem makeing fun of you.. and killing them
 
I would agree, and I would also like to point out that nowhere in the bible does it say "Thou shall not kill", it is a common mistranslation, all bible versions I have read say "Thou shall not Murder" or Commit murder, which as the previous post said, mean to kill without purpose, or kill out of anger/revenge without due cause. Because if you look even a few verses after the 10 commandments you will see reasons people should be put to death.
 
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Quote[/b] (www_rlxc_com @ Oct. 06 2003,3:38)]I would agree, and I would also like to point out that nowhere in the bible does it say "Thou shall not kill", it is a common mistranslation, all bible versions I have read say "Thou shall not Murder" or Commit murder, which as the previous post said, mean to kill without purpose, or kill out of anger/revenge without due cause. Because if you look even a few verses after the 10 commandments you will see reasons people should be put to death.
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That is correct.
 
Go read Mathew 24. Homosexuals as ministers and other false prophets are one of the last signs before the second coming.

Read Mathew 24:5. For many will come in my name claiming, "I am the Christ" and will decieve many.

Many people think that people will come saying "Hey look at me, I am Christ, follow me." That is not how deception works. Deception is sly and underhanded. You don't see it coming until its too late. A christian would not follow somebody who stands on a soap box and says that they are the Christ and savour.

It says, many will come in the name of Jesus (in my name) claiming that Jesus is the Christ (that I am christ) and will deceive many. That is how it works, it is underhanded. They say all the right stuff, but, there is something twisted that we won't stand up against because it just sounds right.

For example, the arguments that homosexuals have been using makes good logical sense. That they should be equal in status and opportunity. They even use Christianity as a weapon against Christians, about how we should not judge them. "Political correctness", not just as a term but as a way of treating everybody, so as to not offend anybody, sounds so nice and easy (it is) and fair and right (it isn't). That is how we are decieved.

Guess what...if you have a minister that is a Homosexual, remove him (or her). Tell your friends who are homosexual that by their actions they will not inherit the kingdom of God. It may hurt to loose a friend, but, imagine eternity hearing your friend cry from hell:

You knew and you didn't tell me! Why didn't you tell me!

Right now, I don't right care. My friends can throw me out of my life, people here can flame me, and the mod's here may want to edit my posts but I must say what I must say.

If you don't stand up against the sly deceptions that are happening in the church now, you are no better then those who are performing it. We are too caught up in what others think or will think about us that we forget to ask:

What will God think of me for not doing anything about it?
 
You are exactly right Pushmeover. Infact right now there is this guy in Russia saying he is the incarnation of Jesus. He has many followers as well. Look at all the cults and groups like the church of the sons of Yehweh and the KKK and aurion nation using christianity to spread hate and decieving so many.
 
about the homosexual pastors..... homesexuality is a sin.. just like any other.. God judges all sin the same.. the difference.. is that they know its a sin... and its blatent sin in their life.. that they need to repent from.. everyone will sin... and God sees all sin the same.. but... if its blatent sin.. and you know its wrong.. you are not to do it
 
You have to repent from all sin. That is why you should pray "forgive me for all sins known and unknowen". However that does not give a person any excuse to sin for repentence is a 180 degree turn.
 
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Quote[/b] (www_rlxc_com @ Oct. 06 2003,12:16)]    So now here is a question, how long until childmolesters are able to run our church?
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Depends...if you're Catholic...they already are. ;)

OK, seriously...while I am in favor of allowing gays to marry (from a civil point of view), I have absolutely no problem if churches refuse to perform it.

Same with female ordination. Paul does say that women should learn in silence. You don't want a woman preaching? No skin off my teeth.
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Thad, I will be there for moral support if you kill a child molester. It's all about jury nullification. ;)
 
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Quote[/b] ]OK, seriously...while I am in favor of allowing gays to marry (from a civil point of view), I have absolutely no problem if churches refuse to perform it.
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now.. there are times.. where Gods law.. overrides mans law.. if homosexuals want to get married.. fine.. but the church should not support sin.. if i am a druggie.. should the church give me drugs? no...

i should have been clearer b4.. yeh.. we should repent from ALL sin.. but if there is blatent sin in our lives.. likie... if we swear... or do drugs.. or if we are gay... then we need to stop it.. we will always sin.. daily.. but. there are some sins.. we will not commit.. becuase they are physical decisions...
 
I think we must come to the realization that without Christianity in the Government, we will continue to have moral decline, even with christians we would have some
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, but nothing like we have now.

Separation of Church and State is nowhere in our Constitution, and there is NO law that states "Separation of Church and State", it is more or less made up in our minds. I am for a Christian government. I am not really for illegalization of other religions, but I would be for teaching against them in school.

Its time to wake up and start fighting for what is right. We NEED to stop being afraid of hurting someone elses feelings by exposing them to something they dont believe.

Movements like the Homosexual Agenda, Feminist movement, and many "equality" movements are only designed to give them special rights. And to degrade the moral foundation this country was founded on.

Lets start with the church and move twards the governmetn. Start fighting back!!
 
I have problems with civil-recognized unions between homosexuals. and it has nothing to do with my religion.

rather it has everything to do with the continuance of the species. the best environment for children is a two-parent home with a male father, and a female mother. This is what marriage provides and is for from a strictly civil viewpoint. The care of children. Since a homosexual union cannot produce children, nor is it the best environment to raise children in, they should not recieve the benefits that a heterosexual couple receives (since that IS the best environment to raise children) at the same time I believe the divorce laws (esp. the no-contest divorce) should be stricter, making divorces harder to recieve.
 
Well, what would be better? A Child in a single parent home? or a child in a disfuntional Father hates mother/mother hates father but cant afford/get a divorce?

Focus on the family did a program once where it did research that showed it is better for a child to have a single parent than it is to have both parents where the father neglects a child(especially a female child)

I am against divorce, but both couples have to want to work at it in order for it to work, otherwise the children will pay the price.
 
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Quote[/b] (www_rlxc_com @ Oct. 07 2003,11:54)]Well, what would be better? A Child in a single parent home? or a child in a disfuntional Father hates mother/mother hates father but cant afford/get a divorce?

      Focus on the family did a program once where it did research that showed it is better for a child to have a single parent than it is to have both parents where the father neglects a child(especially a female child)

      I am against divorce, but both couples have to want to work at it in order for it to work, otherwise the children will pay the price.
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I agree with him on this. I also agree with having a christian goverment. However that cannot happen. This is a democracy not a theocracy. However if anyone knows a place for sale where I can start my own country give me a PM.
 
There are many small African nations that have less than 100,000 people. They are completely independant nations with there own government. I have one in mind for conversion and creation of a christian nation
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