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Quote[/b] (Atown @ Nov. 06 2003,11:34)]plz read this first:
Ok God is past present future, he knows the breathe of every human alive, and we all agree he intervines in peoples lives, then would he not be able make every christian in the world go out and easyly convert ever man and women over a period of a few years?? and dont bug my bout the end times becuase God could move throughtout the world in the way suggested without the end times.
This may be hard to understand but God has only one limitation, and it is a big one -- that He be Perfect. Perfection implies completeness. To say something is perfectly complete is to be redundant.
God is Creator. He had to create a Completeness. This means there had to be Evil as well as Good. All the polarities exist because God had to present both the Yin and the Yang.
But God has been divided up into a Holy Trinity. The Job of the Second Person of the Trinity is to Divide and Judge. The Tree of Creation will be pruned of Evil so that only the Good will remain.
And afterward, what will we have? We will have that Good Heaven that you desire. It won't be 'perfect' in that it will lack completeness -- all will be light with no shadow, good without evil.
It is most unfortunate that souls should be cast out of Heaven, and forever suffer the torture engendered by their own characteristic evil which caused them their exile. It would be better if their souls should be annihilated. However, everything is both a blessing and a curse -- the Immortality which we enjoy is the same Immortality which will be their torment. Christ sacrificed Himself so that our Souls may be Indestructable, but it is that Indestructability which makes His Judgement imperative. Without separating out the Evil, Heaven would be no better than Earth -- five days out of seven for all of eternity the Protestants in Heaven would be having the Catholics work for minimum wage. It would be better to have a Hell and that the Evil should suffer, then to bring all to Heaven and have the Good suffer, as they have always suffered on Earth.
Our Lady has taught us certain prayers which hint that She may indeed wish to liberate sinners from Hell. Might it be possible that the combination of Knowledge and Suffering which a span of experience in Hell would entail might be Redemptive. Charles Dickens, in "The Christmas Carrol" envisions the possibility that a personality may be transformed by Knowledge and the Torment of vindictive Judgment. Maybe he could have been right.
But then, we must imagine a Heaven with who had been the worst low-lifes -- not just the Adolf Hitlers who we could imagine to be even popular when once convinced of the error of their ways, but we must consider that all the brutish and the coarsest Evil would also somehow be redeemed. Yet there are optimists who say that there is some good in everybody, and I must admit that I personally have not yet confronted any absolute unmixed evil.