how come a select few have got to raid a couple days after joining? its not fair if its because they had an alt in guild, you shouldnt be able to use a lowbie alt as a place holder so you can continue to raid with your old guild then come to Redeemed with your main as the raids reset and start raiding right away. The 2 week period was supposed to be for the officers and rest of the guild to get to know you better, etc and so that it didnt look like the only reason you joined was to raid and that you werent loot-centric. Getting to raid on saturday with your old guild and then with redeemed on tuesday then getting your t4 helm within a week of joining seems more raid oriented and loot-centric to me.