Mitt Romney vs Mike Huckabee?

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Atown

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In my mind these are the two candidates i think will have the most success in the long run, but its interesting to see the differences. Ive listened to Romney and he is extremely charismatic, very likeable, identifies well, and when he talks about christianity it almost makes me forget that he serves the devil. Huckabee cameout with the huckchuck facts and his campaign just got a ton of money and has been a pastor before and is building up alot of steam and seems to be more out there more than McCain and Guiliani.

To me, because hes mormon, Romney will be a stronger supporter for christian'isk legislation and will be able to stand by his morals more so than the other candidates but i still dont like the idea of my president as a servant of satan...

Huckabee.... he seems cool but i just dont know.

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Ultimately that will never happen as the Bible says all leaders are put into place by God. (at least I think it says that...someone correct me.)
 
ewoksrule said:
Christians for Ron Paul

Ultimately that will never happen as the Bible says all leaders are put into place by God. (at least I think it says that...someone correct me.)
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Romans 13: 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. 5 Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience’ sake. 6 For because of this you also pay taxes, for they are God’s ministers attending continually to this very thing. 7 Render therefore to all their due: taxes to whom taxes are due, customs to whom customs, fear to whom fear, honor to whom honor.
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But why christians for ron paul? whats wrong with huckabee? According to wikipedia
Huckabee is the author of several books, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, public speaker, and a musician, playing bass guitar in his rock-and-roll band Capitol Offense. He is well known for losing 110 pounds (50 kg) in a very short time and advocating a healthy lifestyle.[3] He and his wife, Janet, have three grown children: David, John Mark, and Sarah.
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plus there is no way Ron Paul would get elected president being the ultra-conservative that he is. also i was hoping on more insight with romney too hence the title, but yeah. plus i think a majority of people who would be on the line of voting would not want another person from texas getting in either, nothing against texas but alot of people are having negative opinions about it.
 
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ron paul is downplayed by the media but he has a large support base. He raised over 6 million dollars in one day, I find it hard to believe the percentage the media puts out. If you look at how they run polls nowadays you would realize that they are vastly out of touch with the american populas.
 
ok but why him? what is he for? what is he against? what makes him special? what are some characteristics that make him good for president? i dont want just "ftw" comments, lets get some good information and comments. ive been reading about him and hes really not that impressive, hes not charasmatic in his videos, he jumps topics very easily, and seems to keep repeating himself.

another note: if your going to say "christians for ron paul" then why doesnt ron paul have any statements of faith on his own website that are findable, at least within the 7.13 minutes i was there, (yes i timed it) while huckabee has it listed on his website in plain view (http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=9) . i could really care less if ron paul has delivered over 4000 babies (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/)
 
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ewoksrule said:
Christians for Ron Paul

Ultimately that will never happen as the Bible says all leaders are put into place by God. (at least I think it says that...someone correct me.)
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Ron paul says that he will not attack another country...why are Christians suppose to vote for him?
 
|CoR|Braveheart said:
Ron paul says that he will not attack another country...why are Christians suppose to vote for him?
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what does that have to do with being christian? why should we care? what does the bible say about it? where did you hear that?
 
Atown said:
what does that have to do with being christian? why should we care? what does the bible say about it? where did you hear that?
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Ok, i might have gotten that wrong. but just say for a second if he did...thats crazy! if someone attacks us we need a president that will fight them.

but don't get me wrong, i need to do more research. so if i am wrong please forgive me.
 
Ron Paul seems to be where the ultra-right meets the ultra-left. He also strikes me as being exceedingly honest. Okay, so he's a little out there, but at least he's being who he is. I wouldn't feel bad if he made it into office, as I happen to agree with his stance on the war as well as many other issues. The one thing about him that concerns me is that with his anti-involvement stance on other countries, he might try to pull support from Israel. While I'm very opposed to our current war, I also strongly feel that the US should always support Israel regardless.

As for Mitt Romney... meh. Not my favorite, but he's okay. I will remind you that in our past we've had presidents who have lied, cheated, philandered, and goodness knows what else. And guess what? They've all been (or claimed to be) Christian. A statement of faith does not a Christian make, nor does it guarantee that the candidate will always live the values he claims to hold.

Huckabee? He may be okay, but I doubt that he has a serious chance of winning, simply because he IS really proclaiming his faith. While I think it's great that he's honest about it, it also tends to alienate people of other faiths and more liberal Christians, so I doubt that he would win. I like his proposal for energy independence though.

The other candidate I'm looking at is Barack Obama. He's a Christian (as a matter of fact, a speech of his testimony is on his website), and I like his proposals to combat poverty and strengthen families, as well as reduce our energy output. What I DON'T like is that he'd likely raise taxes.

All in all? I'm still undecided. I'm not particularly happy with any of the candidates. In the end, all I know is that I'm voting AGAINST Hillary. It's time to end the Bush/Clinton dynasty. ;)
 
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considering the current battle against poverty (welfare), it has done more to ruin families then anything else IMO. A single mother on welfare gets more then if she has a husband, so guess what happens to the father... Added with the fact that the more kids you have the more you receive and you wonder why we have so many problems in poverty stricken areas as people become dependent upon the government and pop out kids that are raised without any fatherly influence much less proper parental support.
 
Ron Paul is good for the country because of, among many things, his strong support for a balanced budget. He is the only major Republican candidate that can credibly claim to support a balanced budget. Huckabee overspent in his time as governor, and of all the Congressmen running for the Republican nomination, Paul is the only one that has never voted for an unbalanced budget.

Because of our recent extreme overspending as a nation, we are very, very in debt. When the government spends more than it makes, it has to borrow from other countries to continue to pay for everything that it buys. The scary part is, our trillions in dollars of debt are being bailed out by possibly volatile countries like China and India that technically could cut us off at any point, and are using the money they make off their loans to stoke the fires of their economies to surpass us as a nation.

A vote for an unbalanced budget is a vote for a diminished America in the long run. We cannot allow ourselves to keep spending like a teenager with Mom's credit card, or we will end up as an economically weak nation, and without an economy we will never be able to have the world influence or standard of living that we currently enjoy and have grown so culpably attached to.

Paul is also a strong Christian, by the way, so if you're voting on that basis, he's a very solid candidate (not that I think that's a good reason to vote for someone).

Also, Paul would dramatically reduce taxes by working to completely abolish the IRS (yes, it's possible to have a government function without permanent income tax, the USA did it just fine up until 1913). Low taxes is a traditionally conservative viewpoint that none of the other candidates can claim to promote. I don't understand why so many people that claim to be staunch conservatives (Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity) are reluctant to endorse him. I think the term "conservative" has really been completely misappropriated by such people to describe a form of authoritarianism that runs counter to the traditional ideals of the founding US government.
 
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Atown said:
ok but why him? what is he for? what is he against? what makes him special? what are some characteristics that make him good for president? i dont want just "ftw" comments, lets get some good information and comments. ive been reading about him and hes really not that impressive, hes not charasmatic in his videos, he jumps topics very easily, and seems to keep repeating himself.

another note: if your going to say "christians for ron paul" then why doesnt ron paul have any statements of faith on his own website that are findable, at least within the 7.13 minutes i was there, (yes i timed it) while huckabee has it listed on his website in plain view (http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=Issues.View&Issue_id=9) . i could really care less if ron paul has delivered over 4000 babies (http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/)
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and why arent his own statements of faith on his own website? i'll use my earlier example, why is delivering more than 4000 babies more important than a statement of faith? and why werent any of my other comments not addressed?
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The thing to remember about Ron Paul is that he is a strict Constitutionalist. The Constitution states that there shall never be a religious test for an office, he leaves his religion off his website. Our Founding Fathers, and first Presidents, believed in a hands-off policy in regards to foreign powers, and that's the way he believes.

His voting record is consistently conservative, and against any expansions of federal power.

The Constitution has no provision for "foreign aid" or federal oversight of education, so he wishes to do away with those things, which we're wasting billions of dollars on annually.

moxie- Obama has stated numerous times that he'll expand federal powers, and social programs; specifically federalizing health care. The way that they'll pay for this obscene, un-constitutional expansion of federal power is by levying more taxes on the "rich" which if you look at the who they're claiming to be rich, you'll realize that it is those individuals who make 35K or more per year. There is no fundamental difference between Obama and Hillary in regards to the programs they wish to inflict upon the American populace.

Remember folks, don't vote AGAINST something. We're supposed to be voting for something. If everyone voted their conscience rather than who they're told by the MSM has the best chance of winning against the 'other side of the aisle' we'd all be much happier.
 
Nationalized healthcare is a nightmare in the making if it gets passed. You don't get everything for nothing, I would much rather not have my income taxes go up to 50% or more. Or better yet we can eliminate income tax all together and the economy will surge up from the extra spending (even if sales taxes are higher ala fair tax).

Most of the candidates look like cut out advertisements for what they will do while in the presidency. People just seem to be accepting it at face value and signing up without knowing the costs associated with their choices. I guess that is why a large portion of america has several thousands of dollars in credit card debt, they want but don't understand that they are throwing money away to the lenders.

What is horrible is when you look at some of the health care bills put forth so far. The wording pretty much mandates a bi-annual checkup, you don't have a choice in the matter. What are they going to do if you refuse medical care? It looks frighteningly close to the socialist system in place in 1984. Especially with bills like SB777 that was recently passed in California.
 
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Or better yet we can eliminate income tax all together and the economy will surge up from the extra spending (even if sales taxes are higher ala fair tax).
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This is a great point I forgot to mention earlier. Elimination of taxes on earning and making necessary compensations on taxes on consumption gives strong incentive to savings, something most Americans are in dire need of given that the average American family has a very large amount of unsecured debt (I forget the exact statistic, but it's something appalling in the five digit range).
 
I like Huckabee mostly for how presents himself and for what he's done for Arkansas. Other than anyones track record what else have we to go on.
 
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I like Huckabee mostly for how presents himself and for what he's done for Arkansas. Other than anyones track record what else have we to go on.
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what exactly has he done for Arkansas?
  • Raised taxes by about 47%
  • Released a bunch of murderer and rapists out to murder and rape some more?
  • He's against home schooling, and has signed laws making it harder for parents to home school their children
  • Supports Illegal Immigration
  • He has been investigated for ethics charges 14 times, resulting in reprimands 5 times for:
  1. Personal use of government funds
  2. Funneling money through a false charity
  3. Hiding donor information
  4. Misreporting personal income
 
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