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This has been brought up many time in the past months, so I figured we need to actually figure out what a true christian is. Please post your thoughts and Biblical passages to support if possible.
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true christian we have to be obedient to God and the calling He has placed within our lives
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so, what about a homosexual pastor?
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I constantly sin, but I repent, meaning I ask for forgiveness and try to change it (Or actually, ask God to change it). That is the difference Didasko is talking about. If you knowingly sin but do not repent, then you're not a true Christian.Eon said:Sounds to me as if you're judging both God and Man there, Didasko. I was also told that God worked miracles in his own way and in his own time - and that man couldn't predict or demand them!
If a practising Christian is a homosexual then God may WELL change his lifestyle - but who are you to say how long it will take, and therefore sit in judgement of another mans faith?
And ALL those quotes are from the apostles - not from Jesus and not from God. I regard those as opinion - unless you believe these 12 men just happened to be infalliable. That smells like church politics to me - and I don't understand how protestants can believe the apostles are infalliable when Peter was the first Pope!
You definitly can not claim to be a Christian if you don't have any fruit to show for it.
Exactly right.Priceless3110 said:But does not the new Christian show fruit as well by a change in his additude or in the way he feels convicted whenever he starts to do something that, he is now learning, is wrong?
Eon said:But the words the apostles say in the bible are the words that the apostles said. Not words that God said - of course in order to preserve the concept of Biblical inerrancy, you have to say that every word the Apostles put in the bible was inspired divinely. But God didn't decide which words from the Apostles made the cut - Constantine did that when he "trimmed" the bible down.
The quotes I'm referring to are the ones used earlier in the thread to "explain" this situation.
Eon said:Regarding fruit - it comes back to this point again. Who says how fast the fruit will develop, and who says it will be apparent to YOU? And yet you're quite happy to judge in God's stead who is or isn't a proper Christian.
Eon said:Sounds to me as if you're judging both God and Man there, Didasko. I was also told that God worked miracles in his own way and in his own time - and that man couldn't predict or demand them!
Eon said:If a practising Christian is a homosexual then God may WELL change his lifestyle - but who are you to say how long it will take, and therefore sit in judgement of another mans faith?
Eon said:And ALL those quotes are from the apostles - not from Jesus and not from God. I regard those as opinion - unless you believe these 12 men just happened to be infalliable. That smells like church politics to me - and I don't understand how protestants can believe the apostles are infalliable when Peter was the first Pope!
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Originally Posted by Priceless3110
But does not the new Christian show fruit as well by a change in his additude or in the way he feels convicted whenever he starts to do something that, he is now learning, is wrong?
Exactly right.
You seem to be responding faster than I have been, and I'm thrilled about it. I was away from my computer all day and you are here to back me up, like a second line of forum defense... I love it.