So much for 45nm

Hescominsoon said:
lower manufacturing costs and also usually lower heat generation allowing in the future higher clockspeeds.
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Correct and correct! The new 45nm technology is being released as an upgraded technology simply because of size and heat. Future improvements in raw brute force will now be possible. The biggest boon for 45nm is not in the gaming sector but in business application. Servers and high end workstations will have more horsepower because multi-processor heat will be less of an issue.

Just like any new tech in the computer industry, just because it hits the streets today, does mean it is the greatest thing out there. Vista for example is a huge technology jump for Microsoft in the way it functions, but you won't catch many MS professionals installing it in massive roll outs until there is a SP1 and the OS is completely stable.
 
because its rare that people post overclocked stats for the base benchmarks ;)
 
Atown said:
because its rare that people post overclocked stats for the base benchmarks ;)
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Because for the most part it is base + base * % overclocked except when you have bottlenecks. Also the more you overclock the higher your error rate will be, even though you *could* run a CPU at 6GHZ, it wont run very well because the pipeline wont always execute properly, or the transistors will be too slow to switch and will read incorrectly, etc. Most of the manufacturing improvements is designed such that less has to be changed, better insulation to reduce noise, waist heat and power usage.

One of the biggest problems with over clocking now is that you have to send more power to the cpu because it will be drawing more power per second due to the higher clock speed, and as such expels more heat as a waist product. The general idea is that you make more efficient processors and then they can go to greater speeds with about the same power draw or a little bit more.

To equate processors to cars would be to say that todays cars travel at several thousand miles per hour, are completely air cooled without any friction in the motor, run any type of fuel and dont need to stop after several years of usage. Development is just that fast.
 
vibrokatana said:
Because for the most part it is base + base * % overclocked except when you have bottlenecks. Also the more you overclock the higher your error rate will be, even though you *could* run a CPU at 6GHZ, it wont run very well because the pipeline wont always execute properly, or the transistors will be too slow to switch and will read incorrectly, etc. Most of the manufacturing improvements is designed such that less has to be changed, better insulation to reduce noise, waist heat and power usage.

One of the biggest problems with over clocking now is that you have to send more power to the cpu because it will be drawing more power per second due to the higher clock speed, and as such expels more heat as a waist product. The general idea is that you make more efficient processors and then they can go to greater speeds with about the same power draw or a little bit more.

To equate processors to cars would be to say that todays cars travel at several thousand miles per hour, are completely air cooled without any friction in the motor, run any type of fuel and dont need to stop after several years of usage. Development is just that fast.
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Got it, thank you for clearing that up.
 
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