How does bible verses relate to Christian life?

Corpfox

Corpfox

Active Member
Or/And: How does it relate to becoming a Christian?

From reading those verses, they would make sense in the real world; working, getting paid, etc.
BUT, how does it make sense in the Christian way; keeping faith, accepting Jesus as savior, etc? The way you've been following for many, many years...(depends who got saved earlier/later)

Matthew 10
Matthew 13.24-52
Matthew 21.33-46
Matthew 22.1-14
 
Corpfox said:
Or/And: How does it relate to becoming a Christian?

From reading those verses, they would make sense in the real world; working, getting paid, etc.
BUT, how does it make sense in the Christian way; keeping faith, accepting Jesus as savior, etc? The way you've been following for many, many years...(depends who got saved earlier/later)

Matthew 10
Matthew 13.24-52
Matthew 21.33-46
Matthew 22.1-14
Click to expand...

I don't understand what you are looking for fox. These passages make sense in the "world" and especially In the Christain walk. Is what you seeking how the pertain to a christain walk.

because we can break down each one. They all pertain to our walk with the Lord Jesus Christ
 
Matthew 10
Jesus Sends Out the Twelve
This is a call to those who consider themselves disciples of Christ. Some may disagree with me about this, but I do not think this was only for the 12, its for all of us, this passage alone tell us how to go out, what were supposed to do, and the dangers we will face

IMO
 
Matthew 13.24-5

The Parable of the Net
Separating the wicked from the Righteous

The Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl
Understanding the Gift of grace and of Heaven

The Parable of the Weeds
Separating our old man from our spirit man

The Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast
Understanding that even the smallest of things can be nurtured to become great things through the grace of God

Now that I reread your post, these are not tenants /stories/instruction for becoming a Christian, they are instructions for being a Christian.

To become a Christian, you need only to admit Lord Jesus Christ is Lord and savoir. The Bible is our Instruction set to become the best Christian we can. All the gifts are avaible to you, you need only to seek.

Am I hitting on what you we seeking?
 
Last edited:
i believe in the context of the verse and who Jesus is talking to it is specificly for the 12, the grammar in greek just does not support it being pointed out to everyone, and most commentors aggree here is an exert from Zondervan NIV commentary on Mathew
He whose word (chs. 5-7) and deed (chs. 8-9) were characterized by authority now delegates something of that authority to twelve men. This is the first time Matthew has explicitly mentioned the Twelve, though his language suggests that the Twelve became a recognized group somewhat earlier. This commission was also a stage in the training and preparation of those who, after Pentecost, would lead the earliest thrust of the fledgling church. Twelve were chosen, probably on an analogy to the twelve tribes of Israel (see comment on Mk 3:13).
The authority the Twelve received enabled them to heal "every kind of disease and sickness" (cf. 4:23; 9:35) and to drive out "evil spirits"--spirits in rebellion against God, hostile to humans, and capable of inflicting mental, moral, and physical harm. This is the first mention in Matthew of such spirits (see also 12:43).

2-4 For the first and only time in Matthew, the Twelve are called "apostles" (GK G693). "Apostle," as used in NT documents, has narrower and wider meanings. It can mean merely "messenger" (Jn 13:16), refer to Jesus ("the apostle and high priest whom we confess," Heb 3:1), or denote a group of "missionaries"--i.e., a group larger than the Twelve and Paul (Ro 16:7; 2Co 8:23). Nevertheless, the usual meaning is a narrow one, referring to special authoritative representatives chosen by Christ (cf. 1Co 9:1-5; 15:7; Gal 1:17, 19; et al.). Paul usually used the term to refer to the Twelve plus himself (by special dispensation, 1Co 15:8-10). For discussion of the twelve men mentioned here, see comment on Mk 3:16-19

also in the previous section Jesus was talking to the 12 specificly so it would mean that Jesus would have to suddenly be changing the tense of the language (Even though a few days or even weeks could of passed since the previous events)

So

Jesus tells the 12 to ask that workers be sent out
then when Jesus sends the workers it is not just the 12 but all of the disciples who are following him, and will follow him then? i think not like i said before i just do not see that in the greek text being possible.
 
The Parable of the Net
Separating the wicked from the Righteous

The Parables of the Hidden Treasure and the Pearl
Understanding the Gift of grace and of Heaven

The Parable of the Weeds
Separating our old man from our spirit man

The Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Yeast
Understanding that even the smallest of things can be nurtured to become great things through the grace of God

Now that I reread your post, these are not tenants /stories/instruction for becoming a Christian, they are instructions for being a Christian.
Click to expand...

Yeah, that makes complete sense, for that verse. How about the others?


Mathew 22.13-14

Then the king told the attendants, Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are invited, but few are chosen.

Mathew 21.33-46

(All of it)

Mathew 10.37-42

(Mathew 10.37)
Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me...

How does that related to Christian life? Or How does it related of becoming a Christian?
 
Corpfox said:
Yeah, that makes complete sense, for that verse. How about the others?


Mathew 22.13-14

Then the king told the attendants, Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are invited, but few are chosen.
Click to expand...

I think that goes back to what we discussed privately Corp; that Christ decides who gets to go to heaven, and who doesn't. He does the separating; we can't just choose that we're going to heaven because in the end he is the one who has our names written down.
Mathew 21.33-46

(All of it)
Click to expand...
I believe this talks about the persecution that we as Christians go through. Have you ever read 'Jesus Freak' by dc talk?
Mathew 10.37-42

(Mathew 10.37)
Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me...

How does that related to Christian life? Or How does it related of becoming a Christian?
Click to expand...

This one can be very hard to explain, but I believe it has to do with our spiritual life as Christians. As Christians, our spiritual body becomes more important to us than our physical and earthly bodies. Our spiritual family is God, Jesus, and our brothers and sisters in Christ as believers in Him. In this verse he's trying to get us to change the way we think, and where our priorities are.
 
Last edited:
in todays society deconstructionism is rampant and where we do not deconstruct we hyper spiritilize.

the literal meaning here is the correct meaning, Jesus is talking about the cost of disiciple ship, if you knowtice the text following after this one you know that it is the parable of the tower builder. Context is the king, it determines the verses meanings.

Jesus is telling believers to count the cost, during Jesus times his teachings where and still are dividing families, what is more important the love that i have for my father in heaven and my devotion to him, or my love and devotion to earthly parents. ultimately the driving point is what are you willing to give up to follow Christ? your mother, your father? if they are what stands between my salvation then yes i will gladly give them up.

this is one of those passages i have had to study indepth at length, inductively for this semister.

i am serious when i say i do not want to bash anyone's thinking but i am sorry asking what does this passage mean to you is completely the wrong question. God has one intended meaning for it while, yes there are many different applications of the one meaning. it is by letting people say "i feel this way" or "i think this about so and so passage" that has caused denominations, cults and other ascew teachings.
 
I wrote this before thinking After you read this post Read This


In the reference you gave to the Greek LOJ, ( And I devert here quickly) I have heard the same speech before only infavor of it refering to all christains.

Kennth E Hargin has a book that can explain it better called The Holy Spirit and His Gifts.

here are a couple of web links that do not go into deep detail but will help you (Anyone jump off on your research on this subject
.
http://sureword.faithweb.com/giftsofhealings.html

http://www.topical-bible-studies.org/13-0005.htm

So I leave it up to the viewers to research.(hence the term its all greek to me.)

Bye for now I am off to work. Ok we can resume to our lives. I completely agree with you one this point, GOD meant 1 thing by it and we should not rely on our own understanding.
 
Last edited:
LionOfJudah said:
in todays society deconstructionism is rampant and where we do not deconstruct we hyper spiritilize.

the literal meaning here is the correct meaning, Jesus is talking about the cost of disiciple ship, if you knowtice the text following after this one you know that it is the parable of the tower builder. Context is the king, it determines the verses meanings.

Jesus is telling believers to count the cost, during Jesus times his teachings where and still are dividing families, what is more important the love that i have for my father in heaven and my devotion to him, or my love and devotion to earthly parents. ultimately the driving point is what are you willing to give up to follow Christ? your mother, your father? if they are what stands between my salvation then yes i will gladly give them up.

this is one of those passages i have had to study indepth at length, inductively for this semister.

i am serious when i say i do not want to bash anyone's thinking but i am sorry asking what does this passage mean to you is completely the wrong question. God has one intended meaning for it while, yes there are many different applications of the one meaning. it is by letting people say "i feel this way" or "i think this about so and so passage" that has caused denominations, cults and other ascew teachings.
Click to expand...

Hmm, I did have to think about it for a while, but I guess I do tend to 'hyper spiritualize' from time to time. I'll be careful about it from now on :D
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top