I find MC to be very dissatisfying

Chaoshammer

Chaoshammer

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Maybe it might be a natural thing to happen for someone first time in. But MC is very strange and confusing to me. Why must I waste 4-8 hours trying to obtain an item that has a purple name but maybe I can find much better items somewhere else. Its a cool idea to be in a 40 man army but I don't understand what to do when all I am hearing is short terms and special words use and I have no idea what they mean? What is this DKP? I am not suited for a game like this? I just understand why Blizzard makes MC so hard in way I don't think its fun anymore. It’s ok to die at a boss but we have to fight all over again when we run back to the instance. What’s so fun about wasting many hours and fight impossible bosses all to get special little items I think just make you look nice but has no real benefit since this game is still hard. I just like to spend 30 mins or an hour playing World of Warcraft not my entire evening when maybe I should be doing other things. I hate how Blizzard has made this game more a drug then a challenge. If want to get anything done at lvl 60 you must summit to long hours of addictiveness.
 
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Choas right now its just a matter of time you guys are learning the encounters and everything, i felt a little bit of the same way back nearly a year ago when i first entered MC on my mage with a little guild called snuggles. eventually i can and do see redeemed being able to clear MC from start to finish in under 5hrs.

the journey there is half the fun trust me, its alot more enjoyable to learn the fights and encounters with your friends and guild mates than to join some guild that has been doing it for 5+months and just run right through it.
 
I just like to spend 30 mins or an hour playing World of Warcraft not my entire evening when maybe I should be doing other things.
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Your Xfire account says otherwise :wink: :wink: 27 hours a week is, uhm, alot more then 30 or 60 minutes a day.

As Lion of Judah said, its about learning right now. Not only learning about how to take down the bosses we are also learning how to lead 40 people. And as both learning curve converge, the time to advance through the instance will decrease. I started raiding with the Holicron Knights in October 2005, when they were also just learning. And on the first day, all we had time to do was take down Lucifron in the same 4 hours. We took down two bosses in the same time. Over time, in 4.5 hours, we will take down 3 bosses, then 4, then 6, then 8 then all 10.

Part of the fun is the journey. Some of us may have every encounter in MC down (Goblit, myself, Sandric etc) but we are now also adventuring down a new path, that in leading. So everybody is learning. And as the raid becomes confident in the leadership, they will be willing to move faster from mob to mob. And they gain confidence by seeing success. Most guilds, in their first run into MC do not take down Luci, some don't even make it to Luci. Never mind take down Luci and Magmadar, which happens to be the third hardest boss in the instance, and we did it without a dwarf priest, which makes it so much easier.

DKP: Dragon Kill Points, started in EverQuest. As you raid and take down bosses, you earn points. You use the points to buy the items the bosses drop. We use a system called a modified zero sum system. That is, the points going into the system as earned for killing bosses equals the points leaving the system as poinst spent for the items. It does reward those who are available more often with more points. But over the long run, the benefit these people get is they may get one or two items before others over the course of many, many months.

Believe it or not, the hardest thing in MC is not the trash, or the bosses; its working as a team. We are a new team, teamwork is not going to be there today, it'll take weeks. The very last boss, Rag, is a simple put a tank on the boss and everybody DPS.
 
Hi Chaoshammer,

I also struggle with the amount of time spent playing WoW. And I'm not even close to lvl 60 yet. In fact I left for a month recently, but have decided to come back but not so much for the game play as for the relationships that I have made here. I'm trying to focus more on the people than the play. I find this much more satisfying. I still like to play but I'm spending more time now getting to know people and being a part of a team when I can. Maybe some day I will make it into MC but if not it's ok because I enjoy the fellowship much more!!
 
IMO, if you are focusing on the game, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Focus on the people, focus on the journey. The loot will drop, and you will get your share, thats a given. But people come into our lives, leave footprints on our hearts and we are never ever the same. :)
 
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IMO, if you are focusing on the game, you are focusing on the wrong thing. Focus on the people, focus on the journey. The loot will drop, and you will get your share, thats a given. But people come into our lives, leave footprints on our hearts and we are never ever the same. :)
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Well said. Play the game for the people, if your playing for loot you'll just dissapoint yourself in the end.

Like LoJ has said it takes time for people to learn the encounters. It's just a personal choice either you like 20/40 man instances and can commit time towards it or focus on other things. I'm sure no one will force you into MC if you don't want to. Being 60 and a part of Redeemed does not mean you have to go to MC.
 
It took me two months to like MC.

And I would not run it until I had a set start and end time.

If you set those parameters and stick to them it is fine.
 
To me MC is fun because i get to be with my friends and sometimes family so its all good because i know even if i mess up they'll pick me up not rag on me about it and ive been there once hehe Ave doesnt let me die or Mituba
 
MC is a cool place, it makes it even more enjoyable when you are with people you enjoy raiding with. Good job on downing Mag lastnight. I knew you guys could do it, we got him to 40 somthing percent when i had to log. What dropped and who got it?
 
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As others have said, for me, MC is all about the journey. Being with the same group of people for hours on end, watching as we improve our times and strategys. Cheering as your friends get phat loots which in turn makes the whole team better. Try after try to down bosses that seem utterly impossible and then one day putting them on "Farm status" (which means, you can down them the first time every time.)

Things change in the end game. Yeah there are still personal goals and loot to earn, but now you have to become part of a team, there is no soloing anymore. The gear and skills of the people around you determines how your progression goes.

anyways, give it time Chaos, and don't write it off yet. Many people freak out their first time in MC. Some are so overwhelmed with excitement they want to cry and others are so confused they want to cry.

I got Lawbringer legplates last night and now I want to cry.
 
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I will confess that sometimes I do think about items and the game more than I think about the people. Purple items and hard bosses can get you lost sometimes in a virtual dream that you lose focus on what’s really important. I am so sorry guys I really don't how to play this game like a good person. I always have this idea that you must be very good at games to be at a high lvl in any mmorpg. But I guess not true since World of Warcraft wanted to be a game that anyone can play and master. This MC was just so new to me and I just got a bad impression of it. But the way you guys say it now I only feel like I have been lying to myself. I really need to stop this negative attitude and this aggression I put into this game. Sorry guys for being so immature. I will get better with time. I just need to relax, be happy, and don't worry so much about this game. Maybe I'll come to MC again and this time with a better attitude.
 
We all understand how you feel Chaos. Look at me...not even 60 and I'm already in MC. =X It's scary cuz I know now...once I get Meli to 60....I'll mostly be trying to do raids like MC. Sure I was excited last night and last week about going because ever since I heard about raids of this size, I wanted to be a part of it all. Not for the loot necessarily. I agree with what everyone else has said about the people that you play with rather than the game itself. Probably the main reason I wanted to do MC was the fact that I saw how close everyone was. The fact that you don't know most of the people that you play with in real life and how close you can get just by playing together....makes me want to raid more. Sure once school starts again I'll have to make a decision about whether I'll have time to do MC anymore...or even play WoW (college fellowship events happen Friday nights and weekends are just times to hang out with friends). All in all....it takes time to get used to it all....the lingo....the strategies....even the people/teamwork. BUT...as a fellow MC n00b...it's a journey we can take together. =)
 
Good news Meli is that the leaders have a goal to get MC on farm status by the time most people will be going back to school. Which means, running the whole of MC in 4 hours. Just think, the whole time we spent taking down two bosses last night being the same amount of time to do all 10 bosses.

btw Meli, most awesome job tanking last night. Alot of very experienced players were impressed that you tanked so well, especially for being 58 in MC.
 
I tried many different MC groups over the past year....last count I think 7...but last night was the most fun for me! Ask any of my friends....I hated MC....I was never going back....and I cried, alot. It makes such a huge difference to play with a group of your friends.

Come and have fun, the loot is just a present you get for having a good time. MC is such a wonderful opportunity to get to know so many new people :-)
 
Recently I have been giving serious consideration to deactivating my account when it comes up for renewal this month. Last night's run changed my mind. While I don't think I'll keep on a six month plan, the fun we had last night with a full run and bosses plus loots (yay GS bracers!) has given me the motivation to keep going. The loot is nice, but the real satisfaction come from seeing our team work together and get better.
 
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