i have a few questions and stuff.

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*AKA*Jester

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i dont want you all to like get a bad opinion of me or anyhting, this after all is just my opinion...  im a more recent christian, i mean yes i have been going to church my whole life but i didnt really start understanding it until two years ago.  my life was crap and i felt empty inside, and sometimes i still do.  but the thing is after reading through tis site more and more, i dont think im on the sme level of christianity that yall are.  i feel like im a lot looser in things that offend me.  i read through the "hit list" dealy and saw games that whoever wrote it wont play.  i respect that and the fact that they have many reasons that they dont want to play it.  heres where my opinion comes in.  its just a video game.  its not real life, its not real at all.  its mereley a game.  i mean yea, some of the games in there are just crap and i wouldnt play them either because they are either pointless or stupid.  but what i dont see is the aknowledgement that when its all said and done its only a game.  first person shooters howeever way you slice them are violent.  the object is to shoothings, even if they are more mission oriented your still going to hvae to shoot things.  for example, the one about hitman codename 47.  ive played hitman 2, and i througuly thought that the game was rather well made and challenging.  the point is to rescue your friend who is the pastor or whatever he was called in the game of a big church in france or italy i htink it was.   well anyways my point in being is that its just a game, sure children shouldnt play tiese games beacsue they arent fully able to differ them from real life but once your a teenage and up you should know the difernce by then.  and all the stuff about half naked women in video games, well thats just the nature of it, how many video games do you see where a heroin is wearing full dress?  or something not skin tight?  there arent many. i dunno, yall probly think im an idiot after reading this, i just think that a video game is a video game.  sure some have harsh language but unless you live inside a bubble youll usually hear stuff like that on a regular basis.  ok im rambling now, i just had to say what i thought, its just my opinion, and i hope i didnt offend anyone.  if so i apologize now.  

Peace--Jman
 
You raise some great point and asked nothing that I haven't been asked before. Those are my opinions and convictions..just because I don't like playing games like that doesn't mean you shouldn't. The basic rule is...if I won't let my (future) kids play them, why should I?

Granted I like UT2003 I turn off gibs and swearing so it's a glorified tag. But it's still killing for sport. I give greater respect for games with killing if it's military or swat/police based etc. Other than "sport" I also give kudos on games that alow violence to be turned off.

Where I put my foot down is on games with occult symbols. COmpanies like ID software, Origin, and Blizzard throw some pretty nast stuff in their games.
It's one thing to make a place look evil but are real satanic symbols and magic rituals necessary...that's pushing relgion in my book.

Hope this sheds some light, let me know if I can explain myself any better.
 
No worries, Jester. There are plenty of members who think the same as you. Don't think you are alone. For me, I have personal boundaries of games I will not cross. It may just be a game, but they still contain things I don't need my mind or household involved with. I'm the same way with movies.

My feeling is, there are so many other games out there which don't contain things I find objectionable. I'll just stick with those.
 
i suppose im just not easily offended by gore or swearing.... i respect your choice, i just couldnt not say what i thought about it. i guess i just like to voice my opinions.
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peace--Jman
 
Im not easily offended by anything.. Buti have a list of which games i play and which i dont. The line is drawn between you and God. Its a personal thing totally.

God told me to stop playing q3 and i did but that doesnt mena noone else should play it. Thats just how it was for me.

Im sure i wrote a lengthy thing on this somewhere..

check http://rizz.toj.cc/cs.htm for something i wrote on games.
 
What it truly comes down to is a matter of the balance between permissable and profitable.

All things are permissiable, yet not all things are profitable.

At what point do these games stop being profitable for your spiritual life, even though you are permitted to play them. I'm with CCGR on this, when they have overt occult symbolism for the good guy, then I don't play. If I came across a game where the women were nude, I would not play. Not because these things are not permitted, but because there is just not any profit to be made by playing them. The 'evil' aspects of these games would overshadow any enjoyment I might get from them and then you run into is this truly the type of person you wish to be known as? For people see your games, and what type of witness are you, if all your games (and this goes for movies to) are borderline obscene with unneccessarily harsh language, occult and demonic promotion and borderline porn?
 
Its not so much about tolerance as it is about what you think is right and wrong. Since we are all humans and have the free right to choose must of our opinions differ (large and small).

I feel some games push the limit but they dont' offend me. I wont play, buy, or support a game that has to do with promoting the devil or anything I don't see fit. The best way I can tell if I should play the game is ask myself the simple question that everyone should know W.W.J.D.

Its that simple guys.
 
One thing my mentor said to me always helps.. he said..

When thinking about somethign you are doing, dont think if its right or wrong, think if its beneficial to you and your walk with God..

w3rd
 
I think there are some things to clear up here. We are not saying that everything is ok if its OK by you. That has shades of the do what thou wilt LaVey mindset.

Of course there are lines that need to be drawn. You know when you are playing too much or for the wrong reasons. You need to make sure that it never becomes the priority over God.

The point is that people have different tolerances to what games are acceptable. I stopped playing quake3 and took my copy of Wc3 back to the shop for the symbols and imagery in it that i found unacceptable. However other people may not find this bad.

If you are close to God and meet with Him daily i dont think there is any way you can be blind to how you are on the area of games. If you take it to him in prayer he will show you what needs to be changed.
 
Agree with Rizz....we live in a world where the question more and more is not really whether something is right or wrong (for Christians that is..maybe others too come to think of it) neways...it has become (for me) about as Rizz says : is this gonna pull me down ? .. is this gonna put stumbling blocks i don't need in my path ? and even if someone else may be affected by what I do ? .... I also gave up Q3 because I felt that it came between me and God..... but that was between me and God....so mileage may vary ...

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