Here is the log from the Alliance meeting on 5-6-2003 for those who want to read it. Thanks to Oegen for getting the rest of the log (since I had to leave). His part has been sectioned off by the asterisks (*). I also tried to clean the log up a bit by getting rid of some junk (i.e. people joining/leaving chat, tells and such) so this is not the complete log. The meeting's agenda was very important. We need to be more active with events. I am one that does not do much, but I am not on much, either. Time and real life is an issue, and we all understand that. But there are events that are planned and people do not show up, even when they are on at the time. I will not go on anymore, and let the chat log explain the rest....
[21:06:30] @@Cleon yells, "OK meeting is starting as of NOW. Please /cg join Cleon is you already havent!"
[21:06:34] Billsagoon cheers at Cleon!
[21:06:39] @@[Alliance] Alauniira: "For all enroute and just waking up. Cleon has the chat for the alliance meeting and we are meeting in the Vetusta Abbey now."
[21:06:45] @@[Alliance] Tamaromni: "sorry, I am running late, omw"
[21:06:46] Billsagoon cheers at Cleon!
[21:06:47] @@[Chat] Ededri: "rofl"
[21:06:55] @@<Badar hogs the rest of the bench so Owar has to go elsehwere>
[21:06:58] Seyla laughs!
[21:07:11] @@<Alauniira groans >
[21:07:14] Owar slaps Badar!
[21:07:20] @@<Badar evades swiftly>
[21:07:21] @@<Krizzerako kicks owa in the hamstring>
[21:07:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Hello everyone!"
[21:07:31] @@<Badar cheers Krizzerako on>
[21:07:37] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "<nods>"
[21:07:38] @@[Chat] Yazour: "Greetings M'Lord"
[21:07:40] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "Hail Cleon"
[21:07:41] Owar waves to Krizzerako.
[21:07:43] Owar waves to Aldwinn.
[21:07:45] Aldwinn waves to Owar.
[21:07:46] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "hello Cleon"
[21:07:46] @@[Chat] Daktok: "hail"
[21:07:48] @@[Chat] Tallima: "greetings"
[21:07:51] @@[Chat] Ededri: "hail friends"
[21:07:55] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "
"
[21:07:56] @@[Chat] Joneus: "<nods to Cleon>"
[21:08:00] @@[Chat] Jamini: "Greetings Cleon"
[21:08:06] Jamini waves to Cleon.
[21:08:10] Faralbo waves at everyone.
[21:08:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What I need tonight is everyone's undivided attention, as this is likely the most important meeting we've had since the FAA began."
[21:08:16] @@[Chat] Xynni: "hello cleaon ="
[21:08:19] @@[Chat] Xynni: "=D"
[21:09:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want everyone to understand a few things before we dig into this."
[21:09:54] Ibb howls in victory to Cleon!
[21:09:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "An alliance, a guild, an army, or whatever there is that exists in this land, can be no stronger than the weakest link in the chain."
[21:10:10] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "seyla"
[21:10:15] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "sorry"
[21:10:17] @@[Chat] Draaga: "bam"
[21:10:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Please, no talking atm."
[21:10:39] Faralbo cheers at Billsagoon!
[21:10:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Our realm is suffering severely. "
[21:11:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Some of the most horrid battles ive ever seen since the days I stpeed foot in this land."
[21:12:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "In no way, is what im about to say, meant to offend anyone, nor to make us look bad, nor to make anyone look better than another. But I want to be honest with us tonight the best I can be. Not rude mean or anything of that nature.."
[21:12:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "but upfront and honest and stern."
[21:12:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "1st from the perspective of our realm."
[21:12:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We fail to have leaders in Albion."
[21:12:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Why?"
[21:13:15] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Because when they lead, a number of people follow them awhile.. until they make a mistake"
[21:13:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And then they are brought down as if they are Mids"
[21:14:10] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If you was in that position.."
[21:14:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "and every day you ran out and led a number of raids, keep takes, defense and offense, and the people did nothing but turn against you..."
[21:14:38] @@[Chat] Cleon: "what would you do and how would you feel?"
[21:15:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Ther eason no leaders in Albion step up, is because they are afraid.. of ruining themselves in this land."
[21:15:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "By making a mistake."
[21:15:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I know our realm is better than that."
[21:15:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all know this."
[21:16:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And we need more than a leader to step up. We need this whole server to tie the knot. We need a revival in our land of victory rather than discouragement of defeat"
[21:16:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A victory cannot be won by one."
[21:16:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It's going to take us ALL giving OR part into this server."
[21:16:53] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I hear day in and out people moping and complaing.. crying because Albion is this and that."
[21:17:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Well, I'm fed up with the complaining. I'm fed up with the excuses."
[21:17:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I spent the past couple of weeks and I made a Cabalist."
[21:17:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I travelled into the Battlegrounds, since that's the easy way"
[21:17:59] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I wanted to see how effective Albions are when someone is leading them on something simple."
[21:18:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I wanted to see how fast they respond, how alert they are."
[21:18:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I took Claeon into Aberm.. we worked as a team and outnumbered 3 to 1 by mids we took the Center Keep"
[21:18:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We went to Thid and the same result."
[21:19:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Today.. in a group of 7, we took the Murd keep as Albions working together and doing what and as they were instructed"
[21:19:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Im telling you all, that organization CAN be done and accomplished."
[21:19:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It takes patience.. it takes order, and it takes being willing to participate."
[21:19:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You wwonder why we fail?"
[21:20:16] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Look at the condition of our realm. Read the VN's. Stand around and here the conversation of our realm."
[21:20:28] @@[Guild] Riegwyn: "how goes the meeting?"
[21:20:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You are thinking, Cleon, what on EARTH does this have to do with FAA."
[21:21:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Well, im so glad you asked."
[21:21:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want to show our alliance tonight how effective we are as a whole in this realm. "
[21:21:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Over the past 6 months.. how effective have our guilds been in this realm."
[21:22:19] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I sure hope those Albs that worked with me in the Battlegrounds with Claeon do rise up and become that effective in RvR later on in their levels. "
[21:22:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It is possible to be overpowered by skills and abilities from the other realms and still come out on top. "
[21:23:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "One thing Albion lacks.. is the Knowledge of Seige use!"
[21:23:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Do you realize I used a single treb on a CK take in BG and wiped out the entire defense of mids in about 20 minutes?"
[21:23:43] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I plan to take the UTMOST amount of my time and teach everyone willing to learn how to ffectively use seige."
[21:23:55] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "<will vouch for cleon regarding siege usage>"
[21:24:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Why cant we take defended mids and hibs keeps? Well I learned using my minstrel's climb walls ability.. when you step up to the top.. the enemies have 4+ trebs EVERYTIME"
[21:25:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Those trebs do massive damage! And if you want realm points, be a treb operator! hitting for 500-700 a shot is huge, plus the AOE you have offered to you and you get the RP's for using it"
[21:25:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "All you need is 1 seige skill, and you can operate seige and build siege"
[21:26:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Its so easy to use and so effective"
[21:26:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Alright, now about our alliance. I have some figured to show us."
[21:26:21] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Hopefully it doesnt startled us too much."
[21:26:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "startle rather"
[21:26:48] @@[Chat] Goremond: "figures rather if we are correcting"
[21:26:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "At the time the meeting was supposed to begin, 9pm EST, here is what we had present..."
[21:27:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Amicitia Aeternus 3 of 3 members present < 6 total membership and 5,368 RP earned this week >"
[21:28:24] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Caelestis Victor 2 of 5 members present < 26 total membership and 60,458 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Elysium 10 of 10 members present < 14 total membership and 115,066 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:16] @@[Chat] Solur: "<smiles>"
[21:29:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Emerald Myst 0 of 0 present < 4 total members and 8,124 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:54] @@<Joneus notices he was standing and quickly seats himself>
[21:30:19] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Kindred of Valiance < 16 of 16 members present > < 69 total members and 437,600 RP earned for this week >"
[21:30:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Knights of Stonehenge 3 of 4 present <18 members and 966 RP earned this week >"
[21:31:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Knights of the Trinity < 2 of 3 present < 20 members and 17,691 RP earned this week >"
[21:31:51] @@<Jaelyra squeals >
[21:32:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Spirit of the Wolf 0 of 1 present < 14 members and 28, 501 RP this week >"
[21:32:21] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Sword and Stone 1 of 4 present < 58 total members and 50,6262 RP this week >"
[21:32:38] Sylvermyst howls in victory to Strydon!
[21:32:45] @@[Chat] Goremond: "some of us are here just unable to attend, but haning on each juicy word SIR"
[21:32:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Syyk Academy 0 of 0 present < 11 members and 8,670 RP earned this week >"
[21:33:00] @@<Neighlon silently chastizes himself for being late>
[21:33:11] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The Sacred Brotherhood 0 of 1 present < 14 members and 5,310 RP earned this week >"
[21:33:24] @@[Chat] Glalin: "4 of 4 present for sword and stone "
[21:33:31] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "/slap"
[21:34:08] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That was at 9pm. Not now"
[21:34:28] Qenad cheers at Sylvermyst!
[21:34:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Anyhow... you all saw your figures and statistics"
[21:34:36] @@<Jaelyra knew she should have stolen Zebbie's drum>
[21:34:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Now lets look at us all."
[21:34:39] @@[Chat] Goremond: "k, i am clear then...i don't count against SnS...i wasn't logged in at 9 PM"
[21:34:44] @@<Ibb slaps krizz... winnnin the duel of course>
[21:34:45] @@[Chat] Milfee: "and other <waves>"
[21:35:24] @@[Chat] Cleon: "FAA 27 of 47 present < 254 members and 738,380 RP earned this week >"
[21:36:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Now, where do each and every one of us fit into these factors?"
[21:36:56] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel alot of our guilds have more potential than effort that is given."
[21:37:15] Goremond has left the chat group.
[21:37:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have heard people complain about a number of things in the past. Not enough crafting, not enough PvE, not enough training, not enough RvR... etc etc"
[21:38:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Therefore, I called a number of PvE events... those that complained... did not show up and I was stuck many times doing perhaps, Dartmoor, with 15 lvl 30's."
[21:38:48] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I took the time to make training classes, where in many cases, those which complained and asked for them, failed to show up."
[21:39:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have made the effort at least everyday to form leadership in <some> manner of RvR, whether gank groups, keep takes, roaming, BG's, etc. Those which told me they want more RvR, its like pulling teeth to get them to come RvRing."
[21:40:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "So I ask you all, where do we all stand individually in this alliance?"
[21:40:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel there have been many which stand to the side and say, what can FAA do for me? And if my expectations are not met, I will complain about it."
[21:40:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That kind of atmosphere is not what makes a successful alliance"
[21:41:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It is very disturbing to me and to all of those which go out of their way many times to create a great events and noone manages to take interest or participate."
[21:42:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not here to ask you ll to donate gold, all your time, all your energy and efforts into the FAA 24/7. You have guilds to run, I dont expect that."
[21:43:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What I do expect is that the guilds you have, you run them to your fullest ability and be successful. When your guilds is effective in and of itself, you will also be effective in this alliance."
[21:43:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Each guild here represents a link to the success of our alliance as a whole."
[21:44:23] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all do each what you can to make your guild the best place for its members, and in turn, your guild works together to make the alliance they are in the best alliance in this realm."
[21:44:29] Ibb slaps Gunduff!
[21:44:36] Gunduff blows a kiss to Arandari!
[21:44:43] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all know the environment we have together.. the atmosphere we share.. the loyalty... etc"
[21:45:20] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I;ve had many new guilds ask to join FAA... a few I gave a chance to make themselves a place to reside in this realm. I asked them beforehand how successful they antiscipated being."
[21:45:56] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A guild that isnt prospering is a guild that becomes stagnant over time and is growing into nothing but a division."
[21:46:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many of the older guilds we invited here split leadership and then both leaders went to form new guilds and then both wanted in FAA with their new guilds.. 5 guilds has this happened to."
[21:46:50] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I think we let one back in."
[21:47:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "0 of which are here tonight."
[21:47:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many of the GM's have lost touch with me."
[21:48:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I never hear from them... I never get updates, I get no communication, and im stuck having to see what the herald says to show me their success and growth as a guild in this realm and alliance."
[21:48:33] Jamini slaps Xynni!
[21:48:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel some guilds are carrying more weight in this alliance than they should. We have a great team of people here. some of the best people I know on this server.. but people which do most of the work become tired over a period of time... and need hel"
[21:49:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "p"
[21:49:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "help"
[21:49:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I speak nothing more than the truth to us tonight."
[21:49:25] Jamini slaps Xynni!
[21:49:56] Billsagoon makes a throat slit motion.
[21:50:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Are we not giving enough effort into our guilds to make them successful? DO we not know how? Are we afraid of making unstable friendships? What seems to be these issues we are facing FAA?"
[21:50:39] Seyla dismisses Nydonnon.
[21:50:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A few have come and asked for advice or help. If I cant answer your questions, although you all know I'll do my very best, then I'll find someone who can. We are here for each other."
[21:51:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "There are GM's ive had to lean on at times, and GM's that needed my shoulder."
[21:51:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We are in this together.. and depending on how much you all want a reivival in this realm... start's at home in each and every indivivual heart in this room and in this realm."
[21:52:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Do any disagree?"
[21:52:13] Unabus shakes his head no.
[21:52:22] Seyla shakes his head no at Cleon.
[21:52:30] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "the thought is beautiful "
[21:52:37] Milfee waves to Cleon.
[21:52:43] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "reality unfortanetly isnt"
[21:53:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many say <ooc> oh this is just a game. Well, you know that's not the truth. We are real, we are here, and we are together.. and our happiness relies on our closeness and teamwork as a union and a whole."
[21:54:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not talking about something overnight, krizzerako. The way Albion is going now, its completely downhill, and any manner of change will be an upward approach."
[21:54:21] @@[Chat] Neydra: "No.. it really IS a game. A game where we can come together and 'do' many things, but it's still a game, and if you try to make it to serious you're going to be pushing people away. "
[21:54:32] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Noone here can tell me they are happy when Albion fails to work as a teama nd dies foolishly when they, in fact, shouldnt have."
[21:55:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "This <game> is centered completely around teamwork and army vs army. Telling the people the reality of the game itself is not going to push them away... but instead, show them ways to work together to make this game funner for them."
[21:55:28] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "I think we do what we can, when we can, asking anymore is just absurd... people have an inate sense to /Up*l, let em ... ppl are easily ignored"
[21:55:55] @@[Chat] Xynni: "its a role playing server in this game while you are in the game it IS real it is no game you are in the role of your charactor"
[21:56:37] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "you know, everyone was quick to jump to this meeting, and get told what we arent doing, when i ask for certain people in rvr grps .... /asend is silent.... hinges come up 15 mins later, then i see the 10billion people are on"
[21:57:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Also, if encouraging people to be team-minded and working together will push them away, then they should go, beucase they are surely in the wrong place."
[21:57:19] @@[Alliance] Gunduff: "I agree with Kriz. I don't think this is an rvr alliance"
[21:57:26] @@[Alliance] Gunduff: "mt.."
[21:57:48] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "optimism is what we need not pessimism if our guildmates dont do there parts <i.e. the higher experienced ones> maybe they shouldnt be guildmates"
[21:58:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Aye, Krizz. It is not just RvR, its anything. getting participation from the alliance has been very difficult."
[21:58:01] @@[Chat] Ededri: "ok this isnt going a good direction. If i may say, the "reality" of this game isn't the issue here. All that needs to happen ir for all of us to be kind and understanding to eachother, and work together without ego's and ........"
[21:58:05] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "You cant leave the door open to push them out, comply to the people, keep trying, its the only way"
[21:58:48] Gunduff hugs Arandari.
[21:59:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The fact of the matter remains as thus..."
[21:59:06] @@[Chat] Ededri: "work together when the times come to do so....lets just say that we need more orginization when it comes down to "realm" issues"
[21:59:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We need more particpation from the members of this alliance."
[21:59:43] @@[Chat] Unabus: "He is not asking you to quit your life for this Game. He is asking you if you could try a lil harder, when you do play this Game and if you want this Game to be a little bit or a lot funner then you could improve out standing ranking in realms"
[22:00:01] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "we do what we want to have fun, no one can ask anything more, anything less"
[22:00:28] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "you wanna try harder, do it.... its impossible for you to speak for everyone in regards to what constitutes fun"
[22:01:10] @@[Chat] Unabus: "The point of this game is to be the head of the war and thats what hes asking to try harder ar Realm V Realm "
[22:01:15] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "leveling = no fun"
[22:01:30] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "thats your opinion"
[22:01:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It was made known to the guilds in this alliance what was expected of them before they joined. Participation is a huge thing. An alliance gatherings are not often. It doesnt hurt to get out once in awhile or answer a call to arms now and then.."
[22:01:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "or do your best to be effective"
[22:01:39] @@<Jamini look a dead horse>
[22:01:40] @@[Chat] Oegen: "Many times online games arent only about your own fun"
[22:01:48] @@[Chat] Ededri: "we need to move on from this subject. I think everyone here realizes that we need more cooperation within the alliance"
[22:02:06] @@[Chat] Oegen: "its just like a sport, you play sports for fun but it doesnt mean you enjoy every practice"
[22:02:12] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Sometimes you have to pay a price for fun and if you didnt know that then know now."
[22:02:27] @@[Chat] Unabus: "This game is my prime example of that"
[22:02:43] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "then you can pay my price, there is no way on this earth am i going to sit here and have you tell me what would be fun for ME"
[22:02:59] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "cause you dont know me, you know you"
[22:03:16] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Im done speeking this debate is endless because i think we all knwo thats obvious but assuming is all we can do"
[22:03:44] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "little to much negativity i thinks"
[22:03:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not asking anyone to alter their fun and enjoyment. I am asking for more alliance guild participation from every guild and its members."
[22:03:55] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "No need ta be defensive krizz no one is attacking others"
[22:04:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Wherever this <fun> issue came about, I do not know. What is on the table right now is, how effective is your guild going to be as part of this alliance?"
[22:05:17] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "Cleon, might I ask what type of alliance you are trying to make this?"
[22:05:18] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "so what is the solution"
[22:05:50] @@[Chat] Cleon: "An Active one, Gunduff. "
[22:05:50] Gunduff waves to Billsagoon.
[22:06:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Here is the balance of this game. Crafting, RvR and PvE. "
[22:06:14] Rask has joined the chat group.
[22:06:16] @@[Chat] Neydra: "Active how. Should I drop everything and PL to 50 so I can be useful?"
[22:06:28] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "Everbudy please jus listen"
[22:06:32] @@[Chat] Cleon: "No. Not at all."
[22:06:34] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "I always thought alliances were based for defending the realm against our for..."
[22:06:35] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "Jumpin ta conclusions gets no where"
[22:06:36] @@[Chat] Ilb: "let him finish"
[22:07:22] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "let him finish? you want leaders? leaders always have the right to be an opinion, by shusshing him , you scare him away from ever wanting to speak out to the people"
[22:07:29] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "kudos to you mate, i hear yah"
[22:07:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want everyone being active is what they enjoy doing. If Group A like crafting, then by all means, go right at it. If group B wants PvE raids, then go right at it.. if Group C wants RvR, then go right at it."
[22:08:12] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If everyone is doing what they enjoy, they are being effective and they are active and the alliance has balance."
[22:08:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What my concerns are is many of the guilds drying up, and not being active in any of these areas."
[22:08:55] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "erm.. cleon.. i dont wanna seem like a wet blanket.. but before this meeting werent we all doing what we enjoyed doing?"
[22:09:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I would hope that a once a month meeting doesnt ruin everything we do to have <fun> in this world."
[22:09:49] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "thats not his point"
[22:09:55] @@[Chat] Moot: "ok folks for your info ive been here all the time on cralewin i had to sawp with my kid"
[22:10:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Then what is the point?"
[22:11:04] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "i didnt mean that you were interrupting anything... just that in the past people have been doing what they enjoy doing have they not?"
[22:11:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Those are not the people im talking about Aldwinn. You're missing the picture."
[22:11:32] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "so therefore, going by that last statement.. we were an effective alliance... correct?"
[22:12:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What the issue is, and I hope I make this clearer to understand, is this.."
[22:12:09] Seyla waves to Palnud.
[22:12:32] @@<Gunduff moves alittle closer to Arandari>
[22:12:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "There are guilds in this alliance which are never at any alliance gatherings, some are divided, and some never grow or recruit or prosper in any way form or fashion. "
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[22:12:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We wander why we dont get responses in /as for things when we have 11 guilds involved here."
[22:14:34] Seyla flexes at Gunduff!
[22:14:51] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:14:52] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I would like Alauniira to share a few views and points on this subject."
[22:15:03] Seyla cries at Gunduff!
[22:15:08] Gunduff hugs Seyla.
[22:15:19] Seyla howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:15:21] Gunduff cheers at Cleon!
[22:15:24] @@<Rendal gnaws on Thoroths leg a bit>
[22:15:25] Cleon cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:33] Ibb bangs on his shield at Cleon!
[22:15:35] Rask salutes Alauniira.
[22:15:38] Rendal cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:40] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Before we lose any more people tonight than we already have.."
[22:15:40] Ilb cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:42] @@<Thoroth pulls his leg back and moves over>
[22:15:44] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The opinion of one usually embarks nothing, therefore Alauniira now has the floor. "
[22:15:58] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "I think we have all lost the main focus of why we are here."
[22:16:13] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "We started to bite at one another, when the enemy is not ourselves."
[22:16:44] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What has happened recently is a drastic decline in Albion structure...on all counts."
[22:16:46] Seyla curtseys to Cleon.
[22:17:13] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "The FAA, the family, has lost connection with each other, and that is what we are trying to stop."
[22:17:30] Seyla curtseys to Cleon.
[22:17:46] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Many have tried acitivies and events...and the turn out has been horrid.."
[22:18:24] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What we want to become is not a part of the norm, but to be the example for everyone else. We need to stick together..not leave each other standing alone."
[22:18:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "There are so many active here...and there are many inactive.."
[22:18:59] Seyla curtseys to Moot.
[22:19:07] Rendal slaps Seyla!
[22:19:15] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "We as an alliance need to stick together and keep ourselves up in a time when all else around us is falling apart."
[22:19:38] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "This meeting is not to berate...its to help save the good family that we have here."
[22:19:54] Seyla hugs Gunduff.
[22:20:02] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "For us to survive as an alliance, we need to be active...we need to start caring again they way we did in the beginning."
[22:20:09] Gunduff inducts Seyla.
[22:20:31] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Everyone has their own agendas...we all know this, but to help out helps everyone in turn."
[22:20:55] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you want a more active alliance to do something for you...help do something for it."
[22:21:11] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you hear someone is trying to arrange an event, make an attempt to go."
[22:21:20] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you cant...get everyone around you to."
[22:21:50] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you hear a call to arms...help out...it does not take much."
[22:21:52] @@Meraslyss yells, "Krizz Why yer guild leavin?"
[22:22:09] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "And where did they all just go..?"
[22:22:09] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "ignnore that"
[22:22:22] @@Cleon says, "to RvR"
[22:22:40] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "That is one thing about them...they are always out there."
[22:23:00] @@[Chat] Klon: "we went to answer a call to defend our realm and help out our friends. We are sorry if that upsets any of you but it must be done"
[22:23:10] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Not at all."
[22:23:52] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You all have heard this all before."
[22:24:11] @@[Chat] Klon: "we know this meeting is important to the alliance but at the same time we sat there we not only gained access to df but we also lost it. "
[22:24:31] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Klon, I completely understand,."
[22:24:54] @@[Chat] Klon: "I just want to make sure that we are not stepping on any toes"
[22:25:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Allow Alauniira to continue."
[22:25:33] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What it all boils down to is that our alliance is becoming inactive and stagnant and it needs a jump start."
[22:25:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Yesterday."
[22:26:17] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You know what house cleaning you can do in your own guilds..you know that a positive attitude is influential and contagious, so use it."
[22:26:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If we dont... we are going to end up like so many others."
[22:26:53] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "No one here wants that."
[22:27:04] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "I dont, and I know you dont."
[22:27:44] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Take today as a day to look at yourselves on the inside..on how many calls you ignored or events you did not bother with..and think how you would feel if it were you running it."
[22:27:49] Zarnon bows to Alauniira.
[22:28:07] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Once we clean from the inside, we can work on everything else."
[22:28:34] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You have been sittting here a long time now, and I thank you for listening..I do hope that next we meet that a definite difference has come about."
[22:28:49] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "/cheer Alauniira"
[22:28:51] Alauniira curtseys.
[22:28:58] Daktok curtseys to Alauniira.
[22:28:59] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "/cheer"
[22:28:59] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "All yours brother."
[22:29:04] Cleon cheers at Alauniira!
[22:29:08] Ibb bangs on his shield at Alauniira!
[22:29:09] Thoroth hugs Alauniira.
[22:29:10] Ibb blows a kiss to Alauniira!
[22:29:10] @@[Chat] Ilb: "nice job Alaun"
[22:29:11] @@[Chat] Tallima: "well said Alauniira"
[22:29:14] You clap at Alauniira!
[22:29:15] Ilb cheers at Alauniira!
[22:29:16] @@[Chat] Ibb: "indeed"
[22:29:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Very well said sister."
[22:30:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Does anyone have questions about tonight regarding any of these things?"
[22:30:35] Rendal attacks Seyla with his dagger!
[22:30:37] Rendal attacks Seyla with his dagger!
[22:30:45] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:47] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:47] @@Rendal says, "whoops sorry"
[22:30:47] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:48] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:48] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:49] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:49] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:50] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:31:22] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i would like to point out one little thing"
[22:31:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want to thank each guild that at least made an effort to be here tonight for starters."
[22:31:35] Glalin cheers at Sylvermyst!
[22:31:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Ok Sylver"
[22:32:06] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "im in alaska <ooc> so most events i am late for, or can not attend, due to the timing"
[22:32:24] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "it is not due to the lack of interest, just the timing is all"
[22:32:27] Strydon nods his head yes at Sylvermyst.
[22:32:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "When you cant be here, you just cant. That isnt an issue."
[22:32:37] Strydon hugs Sylvermyst.
[22:32:56] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "well i would like to see caer sidi someday"
[22:33:14] @@[Chat] Tallanarial: "Heh, sylver, you and I are on the same page"
[22:33:36] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you, yourself, can not make it..promote to others that can."
[22:33:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What is killing things is lack of overall alliance participation. Guilds not recruiting new members, guilds not showing up for alliance events, guilds not showing any ineterest in being part of the alliance at all."
[22:33:51] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "well that is the thing"
[22:34:02] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And when something is asked of them they get defensive or angry or make excuses."
[22:34:20] @@[Chat] Hagart: "Forgive me for butting in, however, we all have differant times in which we find our way to the realm. The point is not to make any feel defensive or that they are to blame if those time clash....."
[22:34:48] @@[Chat] Cleon: "As far as time and schedules and RL and work, those are things noone can help, and is beyond control and fully understanable."
[22:35:03] @@[Chat] Hagart: "It is more to those that are in realm that choose to ignore events, calls to arms or what ever, then want to turn around and complian that they need this or that."
[22:35:15] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i understand that"
[22:35:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "When, however, you see 50 alliance members currently online.. and 7 show up for an event planned over 2 weeks.. that is where you have problems and lack of care."
[22:35:33] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i would just like to go on a sidi raid /as led sometime"
[22:35:59] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "just a want , no biggie"
[22:36:12] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The facts are quite simple. This is a meeting to let everyone know where we stand right now."
[22:36:30] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "That a change has to happen..."
[22:36:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If our guilds cannot all be active together and be a team together and enjoy time together, then they will be replaced with guilds that can."
[22:37:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And that, is the bottom line."
[22:37:19] Seyla blows a kiss to Brother Don!
[22:37:25] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Unfortunately, that is the long and short of it, as much as no one wants it to happen."
[22:38:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We did not form this alliance so that we could just all say, hey, we're in an alliance. Sadly, the part we've suffered is that many GM's have quit their guilds or the game and failed to inform their guild members they left behind what the expectations "
[22:38:38] Seyla just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[22:38:38] Rendal wins the duel!
[22:38:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "of the guilds in this alliance is."
[22:38:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Tonight is a reminder of what we expect and desire from our guilds.. our family, and the FAA."
[22:39:05] @@<Jaelyra tickles Glalin>
[22:39:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Once we work out our own issues, we can then focus on making Albion a better place and grow into a more balanced alliance."
[22:40:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Its hard to get new and more active guilds in the FAA, when we have guilds not pulling their weight. Other guilds dont want to be a part of that and it makes the alliance appear useless or unattractive, for lack of better words."
[22:41:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Lets work hard to make something great happen, and we will. Maybe not what we expect later down the road.. it maybe less it maybe more... but without at least giving that extra effort.. how would you know?"
[22:42:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I am not here to ridicule anyone or bash them. I want the best for us all. But know this, something must happen, and it needs to happen soon before the house is cleaned."
[22:42:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have nothing more to say regarding these issues. "
[22:42:46] Ibb howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:43:10] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'll keep us updated as to what's going on alot more often and hopefully work out some things to get more people involved and make things fun."
[22:43:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I love you guys! If at this time, any have questions, ask them now please?"
[22:43:52] @@[Chat] Seyla: "Where is the bathroom"
[22:43:57] Xynni cheers at Cleon!
[22:44:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "To the left far end of the hall."
[22:44:14] @@<Daktok laughs >
[22:44:14] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "when is lunch being served?"
[22:44:16] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:44:23] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Cleon could we have a little chatt about Seige weaponry, a private one ?"
[22:44:40] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "but seriously i want to make an offer now, if anyone needs siege help ill be happy to offer"
[22:44:43] @@[Chat] Unabus: "at some point or day"
[22:44:46] Daktok curtseys to Cleon.
[22:44:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Seige class is great. "
[22:44:49] Ilb cheers at Seyla!
[22:44:50] Ibb hugs Seyla.
[22:44:52] Ibb howls in victory to Seyla!
[22:45:10] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "with Cleons blessing ill be happy to hold a few classes"
[22:45:12] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:45:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'll answer seige questions anytime... however a class is more beneficial. "
[22:45:32] Xynni hugs Tallima.
[22:45:36] Badar hugs Alauniira.
[22:45:49] Jamini hugs Eralin.
[22:45:53] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:45:55] Ibb howls in victory to Rendal!
[22:45:55] @@<Badar nods >
[22:45:57] Jamini hugs Xynni.
[22:45:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We actually take you out and let you use seige on targets, makes it quite fun."
[22:46:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Yes Unspreck, that would be great."
[22:46:23] Eralin hugs Tallima.
[22:46:30] @@[Chat] Moot: "seyla has also shown some interest in being a target"
[22:46:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Before I close this, I want to say one thing.."
[22:46:48] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:46:57] @@[Chat] Moot: "dan mt "
[22:47:07] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:15] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I could easily have not seen our problems and let them go. Rather than take the chance of fixing them. But that would have let us die together in a pot of rotten stew. "
[22:47:23] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:36] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."
[22:47:46] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Mark my words FAA, I will never lead us into a lie."
[22:47:55] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:59] Ilb cheers at Cleon!
[22:48:01] Rodann has left the chat group.
[22:48:03] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:16] Xynni howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:48:16] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Honesty with each other will make us much closer and prosperous."
[22:48:31] Ibb laughs at Seyla!
[22:48:31] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:34] Palnud slaps Seyla!
[22:48:39] Gunduff hugs Cleon.
[22:48:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That is all I have this evening, and at this time, without any further questions, we call this meeting to a close."
[22:48:47] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:50] Wulfefang casts a spell!
[22:48:54] You clap at Cleon!
[22:48:55] Rask cheers at Cleon!
[22:49:01] Ilb claps at Cleon!
[22:49:10] Daktok curtseys to Cleon.
[22:49:12] @@[Chat] Ibb: "HERE HERE!"
[22:49:13] You cheer at Cleon!
[22:49:15] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:49:17] Ibb cheers at Rendal!
[22:49:17] Cleon cheers!
[22:49:19] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "Well Done!"
[22:49:22] Ibb waves to Rendal.
[22:49:24] @@Rendal says, "ouch"
[22:49:27] Strydon has left the chat group.
[22:49:27] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "Nice meeting Cleon"
[22:49:31] @@[Chat] Draaga: "<hands cleon a cookie>"
[22:49:31] Neighlon has left the chat group.
[22:49:36] @@Moot says, "awesome turnout folks and way to go KoV!!!!!!!!!"
[22:49:37] @@[Chat] Ibb: "indeed well spoken on all accounts"
[22:49:38] Rendal attacks Seyla with his shield!
[22:49:38] Seyla cannot seem to move!
[22:49:42] Glalin has left the chat group.
[22:49:44] @@[Chat] Ibb: "-snatches cookie-"
[21:06:30] @@Cleon yells, "OK meeting is starting as of NOW. Please /cg join Cleon is you already havent!"
[21:06:34] Billsagoon cheers at Cleon!
[21:06:39] @@[Alliance] Alauniira: "For all enroute and just waking up. Cleon has the chat for the alliance meeting and we are meeting in the Vetusta Abbey now."
[21:06:45] @@[Alliance] Tamaromni: "sorry, I am running late, omw"
[21:06:46] Billsagoon cheers at Cleon!
[21:06:47] @@[Chat] Ededri: "rofl"
[21:06:55] @@<Badar hogs the rest of the bench so Owar has to go elsehwere>
[21:06:58] Seyla laughs!
[21:07:11] @@<Alauniira groans >
[21:07:14] Owar slaps Badar!
[21:07:20] @@<Badar evades swiftly>
[21:07:21] @@<Krizzerako kicks owa in the hamstring>
[21:07:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Hello everyone!"
[21:07:31] @@<Badar cheers Krizzerako on>
[21:07:37] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "<nods>"
[21:07:38] @@[Chat] Yazour: "Greetings M'Lord"
[21:07:40] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "Hail Cleon"
[21:07:41] Owar waves to Krizzerako.
[21:07:43] Owar waves to Aldwinn.
[21:07:45] Aldwinn waves to Owar.
[21:07:46] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "hello Cleon"
[21:07:46] @@[Chat] Daktok: "hail"
[21:07:48] @@[Chat] Tallima: "greetings"
[21:07:51] @@[Chat] Ededri: "hail friends"
[21:07:55] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "
"[21:07:56] @@[Chat] Joneus: "<nods to Cleon>"
[21:08:00] @@[Chat] Jamini: "Greetings Cleon"
[21:08:06] Jamini waves to Cleon.
[21:08:10] Faralbo waves at everyone.
[21:08:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What I need tonight is everyone's undivided attention, as this is likely the most important meeting we've had since the FAA began."
[21:08:16] @@[Chat] Xynni: "hello cleaon ="
[21:08:19] @@[Chat] Xynni: "=D"
[21:09:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want everyone to understand a few things before we dig into this."
[21:09:54] Ibb howls in victory to Cleon!
[21:09:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "An alliance, a guild, an army, or whatever there is that exists in this land, can be no stronger than the weakest link in the chain."
[21:10:10] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "seyla"
[21:10:15] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "sorry"
[21:10:17] @@[Chat] Draaga: "bam"
[21:10:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Please, no talking atm."
[21:10:39] Faralbo cheers at Billsagoon!
[21:10:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Our realm is suffering severely. "
[21:11:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Some of the most horrid battles ive ever seen since the days I stpeed foot in this land."
[21:12:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "In no way, is what im about to say, meant to offend anyone, nor to make us look bad, nor to make anyone look better than another. But I want to be honest with us tonight the best I can be. Not rude mean or anything of that nature.."
[21:12:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "but upfront and honest and stern."
[21:12:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "1st from the perspective of our realm."
[21:12:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We fail to have leaders in Albion."
[21:12:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Why?"
[21:13:15] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Because when they lead, a number of people follow them awhile.. until they make a mistake"
[21:13:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And then they are brought down as if they are Mids"
[21:14:10] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If you was in that position.."
[21:14:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "and every day you ran out and led a number of raids, keep takes, defense and offense, and the people did nothing but turn against you..."
[21:14:38] @@[Chat] Cleon: "what would you do and how would you feel?"
[21:15:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Ther eason no leaders in Albion step up, is because they are afraid.. of ruining themselves in this land."
[21:15:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "By making a mistake."
[21:15:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I know our realm is better than that."
[21:15:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all know this."
[21:16:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And we need more than a leader to step up. We need this whole server to tie the knot. We need a revival in our land of victory rather than discouragement of defeat"
[21:16:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A victory cannot be won by one."
[21:16:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It's going to take us ALL giving OR part into this server."
[21:16:53] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I hear day in and out people moping and complaing.. crying because Albion is this and that."
[21:17:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Well, I'm fed up with the complaining. I'm fed up with the excuses."
[21:17:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I spent the past couple of weeks and I made a Cabalist."
[21:17:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I travelled into the Battlegrounds, since that's the easy way"
[21:17:59] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I wanted to see how effective Albions are when someone is leading them on something simple."
[21:18:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I wanted to see how fast they respond, how alert they are."
[21:18:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I took Claeon into Aberm.. we worked as a team and outnumbered 3 to 1 by mids we took the Center Keep"
[21:18:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We went to Thid and the same result."
[21:19:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Today.. in a group of 7, we took the Murd keep as Albions working together and doing what and as they were instructed"
[21:19:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Im telling you all, that organization CAN be done and accomplished."
[21:19:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It takes patience.. it takes order, and it takes being willing to participate."
[21:19:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You wwonder why we fail?"
[21:20:16] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Look at the condition of our realm. Read the VN's. Stand around and here the conversation of our realm."
[21:20:28] @@[Guild] Riegwyn: "how goes the meeting?"
[21:20:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You are thinking, Cleon, what on EARTH does this have to do with FAA."
[21:21:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Well, im so glad you asked."
[21:21:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want to show our alliance tonight how effective we are as a whole in this realm. "
[21:21:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Over the past 6 months.. how effective have our guilds been in this realm."
[21:22:19] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I sure hope those Albs that worked with me in the Battlegrounds with Claeon do rise up and become that effective in RvR later on in their levels. "
[21:22:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It is possible to be overpowered by skills and abilities from the other realms and still come out on top. "
[21:23:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "One thing Albion lacks.. is the Knowledge of Seige use!"
[21:23:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Do you realize I used a single treb on a CK take in BG and wiped out the entire defense of mids in about 20 minutes?"
[21:23:43] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I plan to take the UTMOST amount of my time and teach everyone willing to learn how to ffectively use seige."
[21:23:55] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "<will vouch for cleon regarding siege usage>"
[21:24:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Why cant we take defended mids and hibs keeps? Well I learned using my minstrel's climb walls ability.. when you step up to the top.. the enemies have 4+ trebs EVERYTIME"
[21:25:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Those trebs do massive damage! And if you want realm points, be a treb operator! hitting for 500-700 a shot is huge, plus the AOE you have offered to you and you get the RP's for using it"
[21:25:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "All you need is 1 seige skill, and you can operate seige and build siege"
[21:26:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Its so easy to use and so effective"
[21:26:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Alright, now about our alliance. I have some figured to show us."
[21:26:21] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Hopefully it doesnt startled us too much."
[21:26:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "startle rather"
[21:26:48] @@[Chat] Goremond: "figures rather if we are correcting"
[21:26:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "At the time the meeting was supposed to begin, 9pm EST, here is what we had present..."
[21:27:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Amicitia Aeternus 3 of 3 members present < 6 total membership and 5,368 RP earned this week >"
[21:28:24] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Caelestis Victor 2 of 5 members present < 26 total membership and 60,458 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Elysium 10 of 10 members present < 14 total membership and 115,066 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:16] @@[Chat] Solur: "<smiles>"
[21:29:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Emerald Myst 0 of 0 present < 4 total members and 8,124 RP earned this week >"
[21:29:54] @@<Joneus notices he was standing and quickly seats himself>
[21:30:19] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Kindred of Valiance < 16 of 16 members present > < 69 total members and 437,600 RP earned for this week >"
[21:30:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Knights of Stonehenge 3 of 4 present <18 members and 966 RP earned this week >"
[21:31:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Knights of the Trinity < 2 of 3 present < 20 members and 17,691 RP earned this week >"
[21:31:51] @@<Jaelyra squeals >
[21:32:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Spirit of the Wolf 0 of 1 present < 14 members and 28, 501 RP this week >"
[21:32:21] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Sword and Stone 1 of 4 present < 58 total members and 50,6262 RP this week >"
[21:32:38] Sylvermyst howls in victory to Strydon!
[21:32:45] @@[Chat] Goremond: "some of us are here just unable to attend, but haning on each juicy word SIR"
[21:32:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Syyk Academy 0 of 0 present < 11 members and 8,670 RP earned this week >"
[21:33:00] @@<Neighlon silently chastizes himself for being late>
[21:33:11] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The Sacred Brotherhood 0 of 1 present < 14 members and 5,310 RP earned this week >"
[21:33:24] @@[Chat] Glalin: "4 of 4 present for sword and stone "
[21:33:31] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "/slap"
[21:34:08] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That was at 9pm. Not now"
[21:34:28] Qenad cheers at Sylvermyst!
[21:34:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Anyhow... you all saw your figures and statistics"
[21:34:36] @@<Jaelyra knew she should have stolen Zebbie's drum>
[21:34:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Now lets look at us all."
[21:34:39] @@[Chat] Goremond: "k, i am clear then...i don't count against SnS...i wasn't logged in at 9 PM"
[21:34:44] @@<Ibb slaps krizz... winnnin the duel of course>
[21:34:45] @@[Chat] Milfee: "and other <waves>"
[21:35:24] @@[Chat] Cleon: "FAA 27 of 47 present < 254 members and 738,380 RP earned this week >"
[21:36:17] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Now, where do each and every one of us fit into these factors?"
[21:36:56] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel alot of our guilds have more potential than effort that is given."
[21:37:15] Goremond has left the chat group.
[21:37:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have heard people complain about a number of things in the past. Not enough crafting, not enough PvE, not enough training, not enough RvR... etc etc"
[21:38:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Therefore, I called a number of PvE events... those that complained... did not show up and I was stuck many times doing perhaps, Dartmoor, with 15 lvl 30's."
[21:38:48] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I took the time to make training classes, where in many cases, those which complained and asked for them, failed to show up."
[21:39:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have made the effort at least everyday to form leadership in <some> manner of RvR, whether gank groups, keep takes, roaming, BG's, etc. Those which told me they want more RvR, its like pulling teeth to get them to come RvRing."
[21:40:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "So I ask you all, where do we all stand individually in this alliance?"
[21:40:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel there have been many which stand to the side and say, what can FAA do for me? And if my expectations are not met, I will complain about it."
[21:40:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That kind of atmosphere is not what makes a successful alliance"
[21:41:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It is very disturbing to me and to all of those which go out of their way many times to create a great events and noone manages to take interest or participate."
[21:42:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not here to ask you ll to donate gold, all your time, all your energy and efforts into the FAA 24/7. You have guilds to run, I dont expect that."
[21:43:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What I do expect is that the guilds you have, you run them to your fullest ability and be successful. When your guilds is effective in and of itself, you will also be effective in this alliance."
[21:43:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Each guild here represents a link to the success of our alliance as a whole."
[21:44:23] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all do each what you can to make your guild the best place for its members, and in turn, your guild works together to make the alliance they are in the best alliance in this realm."
[21:44:29] Ibb slaps Gunduff!
[21:44:36] Gunduff blows a kiss to Arandari!
[21:44:43] @@[Chat] Cleon: "You all know the environment we have together.. the atmosphere we share.. the loyalty... etc"
[21:45:20] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I;ve had many new guilds ask to join FAA... a few I gave a chance to make themselves a place to reside in this realm. I asked them beforehand how successful they antiscipated being."
[21:45:56] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A guild that isnt prospering is a guild that becomes stagnant over time and is growing into nothing but a division."
[21:46:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many of the older guilds we invited here split leadership and then both leaders went to form new guilds and then both wanted in FAA with their new guilds.. 5 guilds has this happened to."
[21:46:50] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I think we let one back in."
[21:47:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "0 of which are here tonight."
[21:47:29] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many of the GM's have lost touch with me."
[21:48:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I never hear from them... I never get updates, I get no communication, and im stuck having to see what the herald says to show me their success and growth as a guild in this realm and alliance."
[21:48:33] Jamini slaps Xynni!
[21:48:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I feel some guilds are carrying more weight in this alliance than they should. We have a great team of people here. some of the best people I know on this server.. but people which do most of the work become tired over a period of time... and need hel"
[21:49:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "p"
[21:49:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "help"
[21:49:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I speak nothing more than the truth to us tonight."
[21:49:25] Jamini slaps Xynni!
[21:49:56] Billsagoon makes a throat slit motion.
[21:50:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Are we not giving enough effort into our guilds to make them successful? DO we not know how? Are we afraid of making unstable friendships? What seems to be these issues we are facing FAA?"
[21:50:39] Seyla dismisses Nydonnon.
[21:50:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "A few have come and asked for advice or help. If I cant answer your questions, although you all know I'll do my very best, then I'll find someone who can. We are here for each other."
[21:51:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "There are GM's ive had to lean on at times, and GM's that needed my shoulder."
[21:51:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We are in this together.. and depending on how much you all want a reivival in this realm... start's at home in each and every indivivual heart in this room and in this realm."
[21:52:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Do any disagree?"
[21:52:13] Unabus shakes his head no.
[21:52:22] Seyla shakes his head no at Cleon.
[21:52:30] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "the thought is beautiful "
[21:52:37] Milfee waves to Cleon.
[21:52:43] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "reality unfortanetly isnt"
[21:53:05] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Many say <ooc> oh this is just a game. Well, you know that's not the truth. We are real, we are here, and we are together.. and our happiness relies on our closeness and teamwork as a union and a whole."
[21:54:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not talking about something overnight, krizzerako. The way Albion is going now, its completely downhill, and any manner of change will be an upward approach."
[21:54:21] @@[Chat] Neydra: "No.. it really IS a game. A game where we can come together and 'do' many things, but it's still a game, and if you try to make it to serious you're going to be pushing people away. "
[21:54:32] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Noone here can tell me they are happy when Albion fails to work as a teama nd dies foolishly when they, in fact, shouldnt have."
[21:55:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "This <game> is centered completely around teamwork and army vs army. Telling the people the reality of the game itself is not going to push them away... but instead, show them ways to work together to make this game funner for them."
[21:55:28] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "I think we do what we can, when we can, asking anymore is just absurd... people have an inate sense to /Up*l, let em ... ppl are easily ignored"
[21:55:55] @@[Chat] Xynni: "its a role playing server in this game while you are in the game it IS real it is no game you are in the role of your charactor"
[21:56:37] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "you know, everyone was quick to jump to this meeting, and get told what we arent doing, when i ask for certain people in rvr grps .... /asend is silent.... hinges come up 15 mins later, then i see the 10billion people are on"
[21:57:09] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Also, if encouraging people to be team-minded and working together will push them away, then they should go, beucase they are surely in the wrong place."
[21:57:19] @@[Alliance] Gunduff: "I agree with Kriz. I don't think this is an rvr alliance"
[21:57:26] @@[Alliance] Gunduff: "mt.."
[21:57:48] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "optimism is what we need not pessimism if our guildmates dont do there parts <i.e. the higher experienced ones> maybe they shouldnt be guildmates"
[21:58:01] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Aye, Krizz. It is not just RvR, its anything. getting participation from the alliance has been very difficult."
[21:58:01] @@[Chat] Ededri: "ok this isnt going a good direction. If i may say, the "reality" of this game isn't the issue here. All that needs to happen ir for all of us to be kind and understanding to eachother, and work together without ego's and ........"
[21:58:05] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "You cant leave the door open to push them out, comply to the people, keep trying, its the only way"
[21:58:48] Gunduff hugs Arandari.
[21:59:00] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The fact of the matter remains as thus..."
[21:59:06] @@[Chat] Ededri: "work together when the times come to do so....lets just say that we need more orginization when it comes down to "realm" issues"
[21:59:26] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We need more particpation from the members of this alliance."
[21:59:43] @@[Chat] Unabus: "He is not asking you to quit your life for this Game. He is asking you if you could try a lil harder, when you do play this Game and if you want this Game to be a little bit or a lot funner then you could improve out standing ranking in realms"
[22:00:01] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "we do what we want to have fun, no one can ask anything more, anything less"
[22:00:28] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "you wanna try harder, do it.... its impossible for you to speak for everyone in regards to what constitutes fun"
[22:01:10] @@[Chat] Unabus: "The point of this game is to be the head of the war and thats what hes asking to try harder ar Realm V Realm "
[22:01:15] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "leveling = no fun"
[22:01:30] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "thats your opinion"
[22:01:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "It was made known to the guilds in this alliance what was expected of them before they joined. Participation is a huge thing. An alliance gatherings are not often. It doesnt hurt to get out once in awhile or answer a call to arms now and then.."
[22:01:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "or do your best to be effective"
[22:01:39] @@<Jamini look a dead horse>
[22:01:40] @@[Chat] Oegen: "Many times online games arent only about your own fun"
[22:01:48] @@[Chat] Ededri: "we need to move on from this subject. I think everyone here realizes that we need more cooperation within the alliance"
[22:02:06] @@[Chat] Oegen: "its just like a sport, you play sports for fun but it doesnt mean you enjoy every practice"
[22:02:12] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Sometimes you have to pay a price for fun and if you didnt know that then know now."
[22:02:27] @@[Chat] Unabus: "This game is my prime example of that"
[22:02:43] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "then you can pay my price, there is no way on this earth am i going to sit here and have you tell me what would be fun for ME"
[22:02:59] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "cause you dont know me, you know you"
[22:03:16] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Im done speeking this debate is endless because i think we all knwo thats obvious but assuming is all we can do"
[22:03:44] @@[Chat] Billsagoon: "little to much negativity i thinks"
[22:03:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'm not asking anyone to alter their fun and enjoyment. I am asking for more alliance guild participation from every guild and its members."
[22:03:55] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "No need ta be defensive krizz no one is attacking others"
[22:04:46] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Wherever this <fun> issue came about, I do not know. What is on the table right now is, how effective is your guild going to be as part of this alliance?"
[22:05:17] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "Cleon, might I ask what type of alliance you are trying to make this?"
[22:05:18] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "so what is the solution"
[22:05:50] @@[Chat] Cleon: "An Active one, Gunduff. "
[22:05:50] Gunduff waves to Billsagoon.
[22:06:13] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Here is the balance of this game. Crafting, RvR and PvE. "
[22:06:14] Rask has joined the chat group.
[22:06:16] @@[Chat] Neydra: "Active how. Should I drop everything and PL to 50 so I can be useful?"
[22:06:28] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "Everbudy please jus listen"
[22:06:32] @@[Chat] Cleon: "No. Not at all."
[22:06:34] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "I always thought alliances were based for defending the realm against our for..."
[22:06:35] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "Jumpin ta conclusions gets no where"
[22:06:36] @@[Chat] Ilb: "let him finish"
[22:07:22] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "let him finish? you want leaders? leaders always have the right to be an opinion, by shusshing him , you scare him away from ever wanting to speak out to the people"
[22:07:29] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "kudos to you mate, i hear yah"
[22:07:45] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want everyone being active is what they enjoy doing. If Group A like crafting, then by all means, go right at it. If group B wants PvE raids, then go right at it.. if Group C wants RvR, then go right at it."
[22:08:12] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If everyone is doing what they enjoy, they are being effective and they are active and the alliance has balance."
[22:08:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What my concerns are is many of the guilds drying up, and not being active in any of these areas."
[22:08:55] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "erm.. cleon.. i dont wanna seem like a wet blanket.. but before this meeting werent we all doing what we enjoyed doing?"
[22:09:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I would hope that a once a month meeting doesnt ruin everything we do to have <fun> in this world."
[22:09:49] @@[Chat] Krizzerako: "thats not his point"
[22:09:55] @@[Chat] Moot: "ok folks for your info ive been here all the time on cralewin i had to sawp with my kid"
[22:10:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Then what is the point?"
[22:11:04] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "i didnt mean that you were interrupting anything... just that in the past people have been doing what they enjoy doing have they not?"
[22:11:30] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Those are not the people im talking about Aldwinn. You're missing the picture."
[22:11:32] @@[Chat] Aldwinn: "so therefore, going by that last statement.. we were an effective alliance... correct?"
[22:12:07] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What the issue is, and I hope I make this clearer to understand, is this.."
[22:12:09] Seyla waves to Palnud.
[22:12:32] @@<Gunduff moves alittle closer to Arandari>
[22:12:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "There are guilds in this alliance which are never at any alliance gatherings, some are divided, and some never grow or recruit or prosper in any way form or fashion. "
*****
[22:12:57] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We wander why we dont get responses in /as for things when we have 11 guilds involved here."
[22:14:34] Seyla flexes at Gunduff!
[22:14:51] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:14:52] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I would like Alauniira to share a few views and points on this subject."
[22:15:03] Seyla cries at Gunduff!
[22:15:08] Gunduff hugs Seyla.
[22:15:19] Seyla howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:15:21] Gunduff cheers at Cleon!
[22:15:24] @@<Rendal gnaws on Thoroths leg a bit>
[22:15:25] Cleon cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:33] Ibb bangs on his shield at Cleon!
[22:15:35] Rask salutes Alauniira.
[22:15:38] Rendal cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:40] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Before we lose any more people tonight than we already have.."
[22:15:40] Ilb cheers at Alauniira!
[22:15:42] @@<Thoroth pulls his leg back and moves over>
[22:15:44] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The opinion of one usually embarks nothing, therefore Alauniira now has the floor. "
[22:15:58] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "I think we have all lost the main focus of why we are here."
[22:16:13] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "We started to bite at one another, when the enemy is not ourselves."
[22:16:44] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What has happened recently is a drastic decline in Albion structure...on all counts."
[22:16:46] Seyla curtseys to Cleon.
[22:17:13] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "The FAA, the family, has lost connection with each other, and that is what we are trying to stop."
[22:17:30] Seyla curtseys to Cleon.
[22:17:46] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Many have tried acitivies and events...and the turn out has been horrid.."
[22:18:24] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What we want to become is not a part of the norm, but to be the example for everyone else. We need to stick together..not leave each other standing alone."
[22:18:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "There are so many active here...and there are many inactive.."
[22:18:59] Seyla curtseys to Moot.
[22:19:07] Rendal slaps Seyla!
[22:19:15] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "We as an alliance need to stick together and keep ourselves up in a time when all else around us is falling apart."
[22:19:38] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "This meeting is not to berate...its to help save the good family that we have here."
[22:19:54] Seyla hugs Gunduff.
[22:20:02] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "For us to survive as an alliance, we need to be active...we need to start caring again they way we did in the beginning."
[22:20:09] Gunduff inducts Seyla.
[22:20:31] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Everyone has their own agendas...we all know this, but to help out helps everyone in turn."
[22:20:55] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you want a more active alliance to do something for you...help do something for it."
[22:21:11] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you hear someone is trying to arrange an event, make an attempt to go."
[22:21:20] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you cant...get everyone around you to."
[22:21:50] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you hear a call to arms...help out...it does not take much."
[22:21:52] @@Meraslyss yells, "Krizz Why yer guild leavin?"
[22:22:09] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "And where did they all just go..?"
[22:22:09] @@[Chat] Meraslyss: "ignnore that"
[22:22:22] @@Cleon says, "to RvR"
[22:22:40] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "That is one thing about them...they are always out there."
[22:23:00] @@[Chat] Klon: "we went to answer a call to defend our realm and help out our friends. We are sorry if that upsets any of you but it must be done"
[22:23:10] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Not at all."
[22:23:52] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You all have heard this all before."
[22:24:11] @@[Chat] Klon: "we know this meeting is important to the alliance but at the same time we sat there we not only gained access to df but we also lost it. "
[22:24:31] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Klon, I completely understand,."
[22:24:54] @@[Chat] Klon: "I just want to make sure that we are not stepping on any toes"
[22:25:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Allow Alauniira to continue."
[22:25:33] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "What it all boils down to is that our alliance is becoming inactive and stagnant and it needs a jump start."
[22:25:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Yesterday."
[22:26:17] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You know what house cleaning you can do in your own guilds..you know that a positive attitude is influential and contagious, so use it."
[22:26:42] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If we dont... we are going to end up like so many others."
[22:26:53] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "No one here wants that."
[22:27:04] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "I dont, and I know you dont."
[22:27:44] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Take today as a day to look at yourselves on the inside..on how many calls you ignored or events you did not bother with..and think how you would feel if it were you running it."
[22:27:49] Zarnon bows to Alauniira.
[22:28:07] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Once we clean from the inside, we can work on everything else."
[22:28:34] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "You have been sittting here a long time now, and I thank you for listening..I do hope that next we meet that a definite difference has come about."
[22:28:49] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "/cheer Alauniira"
[22:28:51] Alauniira curtseys.
[22:28:58] Daktok curtseys to Alauniira.
[22:28:59] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "/cheer"
[22:28:59] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "All yours brother."
[22:29:04] Cleon cheers at Alauniira!
[22:29:08] Ibb bangs on his shield at Alauniira!
[22:29:09] Thoroth hugs Alauniira.
[22:29:10] Ibb blows a kiss to Alauniira!
[22:29:10] @@[Chat] Ilb: "nice job Alaun"
[22:29:11] @@[Chat] Tallima: "well said Alauniira"
[22:29:14] You clap at Alauniira!
[22:29:15] Ilb cheers at Alauniira!
[22:29:16] @@[Chat] Ibb: "indeed"
[22:29:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Very well said sister."
[22:30:27] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Does anyone have questions about tonight regarding any of these things?"
[22:30:35] Rendal attacks Seyla with his dagger!
[22:30:37] Rendal attacks Seyla with his dagger!
[22:30:45] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:47] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:47] @@Rendal says, "whoops sorry"
[22:30:47] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:48] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:48] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:49] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:49] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:30:50] Gunduff laughs at Seyla!
[22:31:22] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i would like to point out one little thing
"[22:31:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I want to thank each guild that at least made an effort to be here tonight for starters."
[22:31:35] Glalin cheers at Sylvermyst!
[22:31:36] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Ok Sylver"
[22:32:06] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "im in alaska <ooc> so most events i am late for, or can not attend, due to the timing
"[22:32:24] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "it is not due to the lack of interest, just the timing is all
"[22:32:27] Strydon nods his head yes at Sylvermyst.
[22:32:35] @@[Chat] Cleon: "When you cant be here, you just cant. That isnt an issue."
[22:32:37] Strydon hugs Sylvermyst.
[22:32:56] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "well i would like to see caer sidi someday
"[22:33:14] @@[Chat] Tallanarial: "Heh, sylver, you and I are on the same page"
[22:33:36] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "If you, yourself, can not make it..promote to others that can."
[22:33:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "What is killing things is lack of overall alliance participation. Guilds not recruiting new members, guilds not showing up for alliance events, guilds not showing any ineterest in being part of the alliance at all."
[22:33:51] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "well that is the thing"
[22:34:02] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And when something is asked of them they get defensive or angry or make excuses."
[22:34:20] @@[Chat] Hagart: "Forgive me for butting in, however, we all have differant times in which we find our way to the realm. The point is not to make any feel defensive or that they are to blame if those time clash....."
[22:34:48] @@[Chat] Cleon: "As far as time and schedules and RL and work, those are things noone can help, and is beyond control and fully understanable."
[22:35:03] @@[Chat] Hagart: "It is more to those that are in realm that choose to ignore events, calls to arms or what ever, then want to turn around and complian that they need this or that."
[22:35:15] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i understand that
"[22:35:28] @@[Chat] Cleon: "When, however, you see 50 alliance members currently online.. and 7 show up for an event planned over 2 weeks.. that is where you have problems and lack of care."
[22:35:33] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "i would just like to go on a sidi raid /as led sometime
"[22:35:59] @@[Chat] Sylvermyst: "just a want , no biggie
"[22:36:12] @@[Chat] Cleon: "The facts are quite simple. This is a meeting to let everyone know where we stand right now."
[22:36:30] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "That a change has to happen..."
[22:36:34] @@[Chat] Cleon: "If our guilds cannot all be active together and be a team together and enjoy time together, then they will be replaced with guilds that can."
[22:37:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "And that, is the bottom line."
[22:37:19] Seyla blows a kiss to Brother Don!
[22:37:25] @@[Chat] Alauniira: "Unfortunately, that is the long and short of it, as much as no one wants it to happen."
[22:38:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We did not form this alliance so that we could just all say, hey, we're in an alliance. Sadly, the part we've suffered is that many GM's have quit their guilds or the game and failed to inform their guild members they left behind what the expectations "
[22:38:38] Seyla just died. His corpse lies on the ground.
[22:38:38] Rendal wins the duel!
[22:38:40] @@[Chat] Cleon: "of the guilds in this alliance is."
[22:38:55] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Tonight is a reminder of what we expect and desire from our guilds.. our family, and the FAA."
[22:39:05] @@<Jaelyra tickles Glalin>
[22:39:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Once we work out our own issues, we can then focus on making Albion a better place and grow into a more balanced alliance."
[22:40:33] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Its hard to get new and more active guilds in the FAA, when we have guilds not pulling their weight. Other guilds dont want to be a part of that and it makes the alliance appear useless or unattractive, for lack of better words."
[22:41:14] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Lets work hard to make something great happen, and we will. Maybe not what we expect later down the road.. it maybe less it maybe more... but without at least giving that extra effort.. how would you know?"
[22:42:03] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I am not here to ridicule anyone or bash them. I want the best for us all. But know this, something must happen, and it needs to happen soon before the house is cleaned."
[22:42:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I have nothing more to say regarding these issues. "
[22:42:46] Ibb howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:43:10] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'll keep us updated as to what's going on alot more often and hopefully work out some things to get more people involved and make things fun."
[22:43:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I love you guys! If at this time, any have questions, ask them now please?"
[22:43:52] @@[Chat] Seyla: "Where is the bathroom"
[22:43:57] Xynni cheers at Cleon!
[22:44:04] @@[Chat] Cleon: "To the left far end of the hall."
[22:44:14] @@<Daktok laughs >
[22:44:14] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "when is lunch being served?"
[22:44:16] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:44:23] @@[Chat] Unabus: "Cleon could we have a little chatt about Seige weaponry, a private one ?"
[22:44:40] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "but seriously i want to make an offer now, if anyone needs siege help ill be happy to offer"
[22:44:43] @@[Chat] Unabus: "at some point or day"
[22:44:46] Daktok curtseys to Cleon.
[22:44:49] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Seige class is great. "
[22:44:49] Ilb cheers at Seyla!
[22:44:50] Ibb hugs Seyla.
[22:44:52] Ibb howls in victory to Seyla!
[22:45:10] @@[Chat] Undsprecken: "with Cleons blessing ill be happy to hold a few classes"
[22:45:12] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:45:31] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I'll answer seige questions anytime... however a class is more beneficial. "
[22:45:32] Xynni hugs Tallima.
[22:45:36] Badar hugs Alauniira.
[22:45:49] Jamini hugs Eralin.
[22:45:53] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:45:55] Ibb howls in victory to Rendal!
[22:45:55] @@<Badar nods >
[22:45:57] Jamini hugs Xynni.
[22:45:58] @@[Chat] Cleon: "We actually take you out and let you use seige on targets, makes it quite fun."
[22:46:06] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Yes Unspreck, that would be great."
[22:46:23] Eralin hugs Tallima.
[22:46:30] @@[Chat] Moot: "seyla has also shown some interest in being a target
"[22:46:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Before I close this, I want to say one thing.."
[22:46:48] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:46:57] @@[Chat] Moot: "dan mt "
[22:47:07] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:15] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:22] @@[Chat] Cleon: "I could easily have not seen our problems and let them go. Rather than take the chance of fixing them. But that would have let us die together in a pot of rotten stew. "
[22:47:23] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:36] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:37] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful."
[22:47:46] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:47] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Mark my words FAA, I will never lead us into a lie."
[22:47:55] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:47:59] Ilb cheers at Cleon!
[22:48:01] Rodann has left the chat group.
[22:48:03] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:16] Xynni howls in victory to Cleon!
[22:48:16] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:25] @@[Chat] Cleon: "Honesty with each other will make us much closer and prosperous."
[22:48:31] Ibb laughs at Seyla!
[22:48:31] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:34] Palnud slaps Seyla!
[22:48:39] Gunduff hugs Cleon.
[22:48:42] @@[Chat] Cleon: "That is all I have this evening, and at this time, without any further questions, we call this meeting to a close."
[22:48:47] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:48:50] Wulfefang casts a spell!
[22:48:54] You clap at Cleon!
[22:48:55] Rask cheers at Cleon!
[22:49:01] Ilb claps at Cleon!
[22:49:10] Daktok curtseys to Cleon.
[22:49:12] @@[Chat] Ibb: "HERE HERE!"
[22:49:13] You cheer at Cleon!
[22:49:15] Seyla shoots Rendal with his bow!
[22:49:17] Ibb cheers at Rendal!
[22:49:17] Cleon cheers!
[22:49:19] @@[Chat] Faralbo: "Well Done!"
[22:49:22] Ibb waves to Rendal.
[22:49:24] @@Rendal says, "ouch"
[22:49:27] Strydon has left the chat group.
[22:49:27] @@[Chat] Gunduff: "Nice meeting Cleon"
[22:49:31] @@[Chat] Draaga: "<hands cleon a cookie>"
[22:49:31] Neighlon has left the chat group.
[22:49:36] @@Moot says, "awesome turnout folks and way to go KoV!!!!!!!!!"
[22:49:37] @@[Chat] Ibb: "indeed well spoken on all accounts"
[22:49:38] Rendal attacks Seyla with his shield!
[22:49:38] Seyla cannot seem to move!
[22:49:42] Glalin has left the chat group.
[22:49:44] @@[Chat] Ibb: "-snatches cookie-"