Natural Disasters

Dark Virtue

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Question:

Why are Natural Disasters referred to as "Acts of God"?

If Satan is the god of this world and the maestro of evil and ills, shouldn't they be referred to as "Acts of Satan"?
 
I never called disaster's acts of God..... But by definition I guess the explosive beggining of this Earth was a natural disaster because it was all volcanos, and THAT was an act of God... BUt the again God set up the rules of this universe so Earthquakes are caused by parameters he created... like the formula Chem A + Chem B = Volcanic Eruption. God came up with all of that, but I dont htink he is sitting around chaking things and blowing tornados around...
 
"God came up with all of that, but I dont htink he is sitting around chaking things and blowing tornados around... "

Exactly my point Byblos.

Are tornadoes, hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc set in motion by God, completely random acts of Nature, or acts of Satan?
 
NOt random of course, Random means there is exactly a 50% of it happening. SO it canot possibly be random, they are caused by the various factors all around. For example, if green slime mixing with red slime would cause an Earthquake because GOd made that the forumula then any of a billion things could cause this to happen. No its not Random, and Sure God could cause these things if he wants and so could Satan if he tried hard enough but most of them just happen because of the chemical and scientific reasons.
 
Hmm.

Let me try and explain a bit.

First, random does not mean 50%. That is an overgeneralization. True random is defined as any event or process that occurs without a cause or source. There isn't a 50% chance of an earthquake happening in my neighborhood any time soon. Numerous geological factors push that figure way under the 1% mark.

Next, let me see if I can flesh out your belief. According to what you said, you believe God created a set of rules that govern weather and geology. God then steps back and lets the climate and geology model run. In other words, He steps back and let's nature take its course. You also said that Satan can control disasters as well. Let's not forget that God set the Noachian flood in motion.

So I guess there are three reasons Natural Disasters occur.
 
Random = Of or relating to an event in which all outcomes are equally likely, as in the testing of a blood sample for the presence of a substance.

Thats 50% chance.... Random things have a source obviously... if you tell a computer to give you a random number between 1 and 100 it will use calculations and so fourth and come up with a number, they will not come form no where.

Yeah... SOme happen because of Geology, some because God makes them happen specifically and some Because that rat Satan does em. God knows them all before they happen so in order for them to happen he must Choose to allow it. He is in control of it but isnt the direct cause.
 
EH???

Let's look at what you said, " if you tell a computer to give you a random number between 1 and 100 will use calculations and so fourth and come up with a number"

According to you, if it's random, then there would be a 50% chance of a number coming up and that's not right. A random number between 1 and 100 has a 1% chance of coming up, not 50%.

Note that ALL numbers (outcomes) are equally likely according to your definition. For 50% to be a correct answer, there could only be two numbers, not 100 as in your example.

Does that make sense?
 
no.... A computer can come up witha formula so each number would have exactly 50% chance, thus being random.

It makes sense.... Each number would have to go through a certain amount of cycles so that there is a 50% for each of them to be the one.
 
In order for a number to have a 50% chance of being randomly selected there could only be two numbers.

Think of a coin, there's a 50% chance of it being heads and 50% chance of it being tails when flipped.

Randomly selecting a number from 1-10 would give a 10% chance for any given number to show up. 10% for 1, 10% for 2, 10%, for 3, etc.

If there are 100 numbers in your selection, then each number would have a 1% chance of being randomly selected.
 
no... there doesnt have to only be 2 numbers... You could just give each one a 50% chance over and over until only one is left..
 
Here's the math behind that:

The equation used for chance of outcome is 1/n

n is the number of possible outcomes.

In a coin the equation would be 1/2 (2 being the number of sides).

1/2 = .5 = 50%

In your 1 to 100 analogy the equation would be:

1/100 = .01 = 1%
 
Right Byblos, so there's a 50% chance for 1, 50% chance for 2, 50% chance for 3, etc., adding up to a total of 5000%.

Good grief..
 
The ONLY way there could be a 50% chance for each number to show up is if there were only TWO numbers in your selection.

You can only have a maximum of 100%.

Like Mr. Bill said, you can't add up to 5000%.
 
Choice a is either 1 or 0
Choice b is either 1 or 0
Choice c is either 1 or 0
THen after theya re all decided randomly. you take all of the 0s and delete them and keep the ones. so you have then
a = 1
c = 1
and then you do the sequence over again. In then end Each Letter had Equal chance to being the chosen one.
 
Your right, using 50% was wrong... but was the best way I could come up with saying Equal at the moment.
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The only thing I Got was 50% was the wrong way to explain it. Random can still be 1 of 100 numbers. And Random doesnt mean from an unknown source as you described it to mean.
 
Job 26:7-14 states:
"He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing. He wraps up the waters in his clouds, yet the clouds do not burst under their weight. He covers the face of the full moon, spreading his clouds over it. He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness. The pillars of the heavens quake, aghast at his rebuke. By his power he churned up the sea; by his wisdom he cut Rahab to pieces. By his breath the skeis became fair; his hands pierced the gliding serpent. And these are but the outer fringe of his works; how faint the whisper we hear of him! Who then can understand the thunger of his power?"

Those verses bolster God's control over nature.
 
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