Overclocking Video card with a 2.1 GHz PC, good or bad?

Corpfox

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Counter-Strike: Source and F.E.A.R maximum requirements are over 2.5 Ghz PC.

My ram is maxed out, 2 GB. My video card is maxed out, 256 GDDR. Hard drive is not a problem, have about 30 Gigs space left out of 80 Gigs.

Using a X800XT PE video card, AGP. I got a overclocking software, RedLine. I've tried to overclock, I don't see a difference between new and default settings. Current settings: 519.8 MHz Core, 560.3 MHz Memory. I've tried to go up to 750 for both, it crashed my pc.

If I gotten it up to or over 750 MHz Core and Memory, will it destroy my pc or will it make the performance of my pc, 150%?

My FPS (Frames Per Second) is quite low, even with low settings doesnt change the "sparks" throughout the games background/foreground. It makes the everything so shiny, how can I get rid of that!?

My performance settings is already high enough, how do I get rid of the quality?
 
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If you're just overclocking the video cpu keep the slot under it free for air movement for the cooling of the cpu or put a slot cooler in it to help it stay cool. The higher overclocked the more heat it will put out so you must keep it cool or it will become toast really soon. It may stand it for a while but will eventually fail. Also you might see tearing in your video screen as you play. Also it voids your warranty. Use canned air to keep the fan and heatsink clean.

If you're overclocking the system cpu you'll need a bigger fan and heatsink. Your cpu will burn out over time. Check your cpu fan and heatsink for dust-lint. Don't let them get clogged up. Most of the time overclocking is done in the system bios through voltage settings. Some motherboards have overclocking abilities inside the bios. My Asus board does. I can choose 5% 10% 15% overclocking. In your bios you also should have a cpu temperature monitor check it for the normal operating temp then check it after you've overclocked for an hour or two.
 
I'm fairly sure your problem lies in your processor. You have a nice setup, but that processor is a bottleneck to the rest of your equipment (video, mb, etc).

I have a 2700+ and a 6800 (non-gt) 128mb. It plays CS:S just fine I think it bounces around 75-100 fps, but I haven't played CS:S in a long time. I played the Quake 4 demo yesterday and it looked great on medium settings.
 
With the potental of my video card, it should at least give me some decent fps rates. Video test from CS:S on Low, Med, and High settings always goes around the 70's fps marker. Though, on low, most refective parts are bright purple. So, I see there isn't much difference except for bad visual quality per lower setting.

I got all the updates list, He's, I don't know if it has changed. Gives me an average of 70 fps when I look afar from buildings, an average of 35 fps when a firefight occurs, however, gives me 150+ fps when I stare at a wall, sky, water or ground...

I can not overclock my cpu since I have no temperature meter, or no setting that allows me to overclock my cpu.

I'm using a 2800+, theapoc, or more presice:

AMD Athlon XP 2800+
2 GB of "Corsair" Rams
256 MB of "ATI Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition" Video Card
17" Inch HP LCD Monitor w/ speakers

Everything is good, except for yes, the cpu. I was thinking of getting a Athlon 64, but it looks like it cannot go over my 2.1 Ghz, which is a waste.
 
That fps is about what I pull in all 3 situations, its about as good as your gonna pull on a socket A. In order to fully utilize your 2gbs of ram and x800xt, need a new mobo and cpu.

But for now, there is no use in OCing your graphics card due to the cpu is bottle necking the graphics card.

You should be able to run 1280x1024 on high settings at 70 fps avg, 35 fire fight, 150 wall. Keep in mind the lower res (i.e. 600x800) is worse to run than say 1024x768, it will actually deter performance rather than increase by making res smaller (800x600). I find that if i run source on 800x600, i get less fps than 1280x1024.

Comparing gfx cards of course, I have a 6600gt which is a less powerful than a x800. (6600gt pumps 16GB/s stock, x800 pulls about 32GB/s stock) which theoretically double. If you are pulling about same graphics performance I do, then definent cpu bottleneck.
 
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So thats why my Socket A is not located anywhere. Can't even upgrade it into a Athlon 64. :(

Though, it would be nice to get my cpu up to 3200+. :D

I was really hoping to have my current PC, maxed out. I hate bottlenecks!

And even worse, every PC is using PCI-E, I can't even buy a PC that uses my X800XT AGP! :mad:

Won't matter much since most PC games will require over 3.0 Ghz......which I don't think anyone can keep updating their PCs.

At least it runs all of my high performance games; Half-Life 2, CS:S, F.E.A.R.

Funny, just an insane question, what happens if I underclock my video card? Meaning, instead of running it 500+ Mhz Core/Memory, change it to 250+ Mhz Core/Memory.
 
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You can underclock, it will help with heat disipation. You'll have to find the medium of where your CPU bottlenecks by just testing and finding out.

Here is a mobo that accepts AGP and is socket 939 (amd 64 bit, amd x2 dual core, amd FX series compatable)

Its do able to have a new CPU socket with AGP, but AGP and PCI-E together is not a good idea, only a few boards support this and those mobos are not good, as they are limited by AGP.
 
I can only go as low as 411 Mhz Core/Memory, though, I am willing to try it out, when I have the time.

Funny, that looks like my motherboard. :eek:

I don't think I need to get another motherboard, I don't even know how to remove/re-built it into my existing PC.

However, I did see a very powerful PC which I'm sure you'll all agree on, too bad its in Canada. :)

Apton 3400

Oddly, on the free newspaper flyer (Metro), the Apton 5000 has a ATI X1300 512MB PCI-E Graphic pricing at $1,777. Maybe its a typo error.

Though, I'm keeping what I own, thats enough help for now, thanks.
 
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Radeon x1300 is kinda cheap and pathetic. Way lower than what you have now. Usually a x1300 is half the clock of what you have, half the bit bus, and 1/3 the pixel piplelines. High end cards are the x1600 or higher.
 
Radeon x1300 is kinda cheap and pathetic. Way lower than what you have now.
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Your right, it is pathetic, LOL. The x1300 is almost as equal as my old 9550.

Since were talking about computer parts, can anyone tell me how big is, 1 Terabyte?

I thought 200 GB of Hard drive was the highest, then I see 300 GB and 500 GB. Now it seems to me, 1 Terabyte must equal 1,000 GB (External, of course). :eek:
 
Corpfox said:
Counter-Strike: Source and F.E.A.R maximum requirements are over 2.5 Ghz PC.

My ram is maxed out, 2 GB. My video card is maxed out, 256 GDDR. Hard drive is not a problem, have about 30 Gigs space left out of 80 Gigs.

Using a X800XT PE video card, AGP. I got a overclocking software, RedLine. I've tried to overclock, I don't see a difference between new and default settings. Current settings: 519.8 MHz Core, 560.3 MHz Memory. I've tried to go up to 750 for both, it crashed my pc.

If I gotten it up to or over 750 MHz Core and Memory, will it destroy my pc or will it make the performance of my pc, 150%?

My FPS (Frames Per Second) is quite low, even with low settings doesnt change the "sparks" throughout the games background/foreground. It makes the everything so shiny, how can I get rid of that!?

My performance settings is already high enough, how do I get rid of the quality?
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If I owned a x800xt pe I would'nt overclocked it, I would use the video card
not overclocked and it would be fast enough for me I reckon with my 3 Ghz
pentium 4 and my 1 Gig ram. I recommend you get a faster processor.
 
1024 gigabytes = 1 terabyte.

Currently you can buy 500gigabyte hard drives.

Some external backups like that one has 1terabyte hard drives, but are really expensive.

Basically a cpu 3ghz can support a 6800gt or x800 without bottleneck.

below 3ghz to about 2.5, go with a 6600gt or x700.

3ghz to 3.7ghz can support a 7800gt or x1600

3.7ghz or higher go with a 7800gtx or a x1900 or 7800gtx dual core or x1900 crossfire (x1800 also).

If you run a amd x2 4400+ or better or FX-57 or better, SLI 7800gtx or x1900 would work.

This all depends on a few other things also, asuming the computer has 1GB of pc3200 ram or more and a 7.2k hard drive or better.

Now there is no official lines drawn, its just based off of knowing things, So my figures might be a bit off.
 
3ghz to 3.7ghz can support a 7800gt or x1600
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I went to ATI's site on Upgrading Advisor, I did pick my correct Brand name and product number. On the list of video cards, it said I "buy/use" a, x1600.

512 MB Video card on a 128 bit interface sounds bottlenecked already.

Ok, since my video card quite high, and expensive, what Nvidia video card is equal to mine? Quality/performance and price range.

I brought mine over $450 CDN (Tax included), and most of you know how well a, X800XT PE, is.

And also, since mine is bottlenecked, what video card (other than my own), would it be, the range I am now?

- 70 fps close/ 150 fps far/ 35 fps busy.
- some graphical errors: Can not load this enviroment, etc, etc.
- pure quality over performance

Sometimes, when I play CS 1.6, during gaming, my "wireless" mouse shutters and my "wireless" keyboard stops keying keys, meaning it doesn't work in the beginning; off degree-angle aim, constant ups and downs, "I'm going forward one step at a time", even with low lag, etc.
 
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