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Shyfroggy said:God's timing not ours, is a lesson learned in time to those who believe, it is not a cop out - especially not a cop out just because you say it is....
Did you ever watch Reading Rainbow? Levar Burton always ended it the same way. He'd say, "But don't take MY word for it". I hope you know, I'm sure you do in fact, that I'm not the only one that feels this way.
others who sought him and didn't have there prayers answered....does that mean they didn't have any change in their direction, when you say there prayers weren't answered do you mean that they didn't get the answer they wanted or they didn't get an answer in __ amount of time...since none of us can say what God's answer for somebody elses life would be, who are we to say that they didn't get an answer? just because they didn't get an answer they liked or wanted, doesn't mean they didn't get an answer
Hmm, I think you're dancing around the issue. You're saying God answers ALL prayers in three ways: yes, no, or maybe/not right now.
EH? Again, you just described chaos, randomness. There is no apparent rhyme or reason to his answers, so why not just attribute these things to chance? Why must you attribute things to God? Do you even believe in random chance? Maybe I should have started there.
you need proof, that is what it always comes down to....how do you know the proof isn't before your very eyes? how do you know that God isn't giving you signs everyday that you just fail to see because you are so caught up on searching and searching, do you ever just stop to see what is?
You're not being fair. YOU needed proof too didn't you? What was it that made you believe? Look at all the Christians you know...did they believe based off of the same proof?
I simply need a different kind of proof.
The difference between you and I is that I am no longer searching. I don't care anymore...I don't NEED religion. There was a time when I did, but that time is long past. There was a time when I fervently prayed for answers, but received nothing. Now let me ask you this...if God is omniscient, wouldn't he know just what I would need to flip my switch? Wouldn't he know just how long I could beg before I crossed the point of no return?
BESIDES, if you believe in Predestination, aren't there some who simply won't be called or chosen no matter how much you seek?
God's hand, God's healing, God's Gifts. Since I view my life as a gift from God, I view the abilities and talents I have as a gift from God as well...therefore when I work and see those gifts in action, I know it is God's Will, I know it is where He wants me. I know it is Him working through me....and the last time I checked the bible was up to interpretation, so I can read what I wish to read in a given verse....I interpret it different than you do, but that doesn't make what I am saying or how I feel any less important....
AHA, and therein lies the problem. You are not objective, you are subjective. Now, if you require ME to be objective, shouldn't you be willing to do the same?
I've said it before I'll say it again, and again, "It's God's timing, not ours."
Just say "I DON'T KNOW", how is that any different than your answer?