Smurf Guild?

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Here's my thought.

A bunch of the higher end guilds run "smurf guilds". Basically, they take a sigil won in HoH and create a second guild. Then, they tweak their builds by scrimmaging against each other. This is a great way to develop teamwork and coordination as well as figure out how to best destroy others. It will also allow us to do some testing as to tactics against real people.

If we want to get serious about PvP, then we should consider doing something like this. I'd be willing to donate 10k toward the cost of a sigil for our smurf guild, which could be held by one of our married couples. Why? Well, as you know, you can only be in one guild at a time. If a couple is in charge, then we can still have one person in that house be in SoE and one in the smurf guild. Then, when the teams get chosen up for the scrimmage, husband tells the people to leave the guild, wife invites them to smurf guild, we scrimmage. If the wife wants to get on guild chat, husband leaves, joins smurf guild, gets promoted to leader, wife leaves, gets invited by me.

So... any questions or concerns? Do you guys think this is a good idea? I WANT FEEDBACK PEOPLE!!
 
With the "Guild Guest" feature, you wouldn't even need to leave. Guest fee is same as invite. 8hrs to play as a part of SoE(b). If one member of the b guild wants to play with the main guild, just guest them in.

If you are trying to earn faction, you don't want to be constantly changing guilds because you won't get full faction for GvG.

Good idea though, but we would need to have 16 online and wanting to participate for it to work, or go 6v6 or something short of full teams.
 
Yeah I am down. Sounds like a neat idea. OH MY WORD, I just thought of something as I am typing this. We could have 1 on 1 duels!!! we use the two guilds, anyone can come and watch, then 2 ppl battle it out and the winner gets to brag... haha that would be fun to do with in guild.

I can donate to the sigil cost as well.
 
Sounds like it could be fun every now and then. To be totally honest, PvP doesn't excite me that much. I've been eyeballing BF2 lately to quench that thirst.
 
I'm still kind of new to this game but what about doing just normal pvp (non guild) fights against each other for practice. The maps might be different but if we can be on separate sides then we still get the experience of learning to work together against other people.
 
The trouble with normal PvP is that there aren't any arenas that you can pick your opponent. With GvG, we can just pick the opponent (smurf guild) and meet up. With all 16 of us on TS together, we can coordinate and try out different attack tactics and defenses.

A few words of caution about the smurf guild though. I would recommend that we never do any ranked matches with a smurf guild, either against SoE or other outside guilds. If you read the recent Fansite Friday #60, ANet is aware of some high guilds smurfing and raising their smurf guild rating as well. They may make changes to make smurfing more difficult. We will have to watch for further updates/changes that may make this difficult. They didn't mention the possible exploit of forming a smurf guild with the intention of throwing matches to artificially inflate your guild rating. I don't think anyone here would want to participate in anything shady like that though.
 
Absolutely not, Loew. I believe only the officers can make GvG challenges anyway I can assure you all that none of us would be interested in unfairly raising our guild ranking. In fact, it would actually hurt us in the long run because if we were ever to do true GvG we would appear to be a stronger team than we really were.

Our GvG efforts at the moment are just not strong. If and when the smurf guild is formed, we can begin to practice and think about forming an actual GvG competition team. For now, I suggest Friday nights be used for arena PvP with fellow guildies.

Also, your main characters will not be members of the smurf guild, so keep that in mind. Smurf guild characters will most likely be pre-made PvP characters.
 
Mr_Slice said:
Also, your main characters will not be members of the smurf guild, so keep that in mind. Smurf guild characters will most likely be pre-made PvP characters.
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I don't think that would work Slice. All of your characters are tied to one guild unless you have a separate game key. You can either be in SoE or the smurf guild but not both unless you are invited as a guest. And I doubt that you could compete against your guild as a guest of another guild. I don't know who you would be able to get to leave SoE to join the smurf guild. I don't think this is going to actually work unless there are more members really dedicated to GvG. Please let me know if I'm missing something and am wrong about this.
 
I don't know who you would be able to get to leave SoE to join the smurf guild.
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Other then one account holding the Smurf Guild open, the rest of us can just switch for the day of the event and then right back afterwards.

The guest thing would be nice if it worked. We will have to see. Otherwise switching would be fine for a specific event. As long as someone is made officer on each guild, they can do the invites
 
Actually, I was thinking what you wrote, but didn't type it. A smurf guild won't work at all since all of the characters on each person's account are indeed tied to SoE. And I'm sure everyone isn't going to go out and buy a new account just to practice PvP.
 
ewoksrule said:
Other then one account holding the Smurf Guild open, the rest of us can just switch for the day of the event and then right back afterwards.

The guest thing would be nice if it worked. We will have to see. Otherwise switching would be fine for a specific event. As long as someone is made officer on each guild, they can do the invites
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That sounds like a lot more of a hassle than I'm interested in trying to maintain.
 
Yes that would work but it would indeed be a hassle. It really all depends on how many members are really really interested in organizing some GvG events. If there are quite a few interested enough, they would have to participate in forum discussions and make themselves available for practices and especially scheduled matches. I was a clan leader for the UT mod Tactical Ops a few years ago and we did some practicing and competitions. It took a lot of my time and effort to organize practices and get everyone to show up and when not enough showed up for either, it was very frustrating. It ultimately burned me out on competition games. It started to affect my personal life. I'm strictly a casual, for fun only gamer now because of it.

Basically I'm just saying that if you want to get some organized GvG going, you'll need a lot more participation and interest from members of the guild before it will work. As it stands now, I suggest maybe just having some friendly GvG matches on Friday nights or something and seeing how many ppl are willing to participate in it before getting too serious about it. This way if not enough show up for a match, you can just group up for some missions or something and won't have your time and effort wasted due to non-participation.
 
I think that it is important that players get to see what GvG is like. However I don't think we have nearly the interest to be serious about it. GvG is tough stuff. It is long and requires serious planning and strategy. If after everyone gets to try it out through our Friday nights, enough want to go at it full bore, then by all means the leadership here will support that.

I agree with astrod00d that we don't want to waste peoples time. When there is large interest we can do things like a smurf guild. Until then lets just go with Friday nights as a chance to try it out. Each Friday night if enough ppl show up at the planned times, we will go for it and have some fun.

If you see players in game asking for more PvP GvG encourage them to visit the boards and show their interest.

This is a work in progress.
 
Another option to maintain a lower level of GvG interest would be to find another guild to practice (unrated matches) against. We could guest invite to even things out if we have to. We could even share TS info (with our or their host OK, of course) to all be on the same channel for some simple tactic evaluation stuff. Does anyone have friends in another guild with a relatively active member base?
 
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