Totally cool!
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Melinarlia
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That is really cool. And that's a lot of comments on it.
Odale
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Wow. Thats pretty cool how he can make a Drawing of Jesus' face with paint on his hands. Nice!
Quantum_Man
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That was pretty neat, thanks for sharing Tarl.
Fritz The Grand
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Part of me hates to bring this up, but that is the sissy part of me, not trying to cause issues but:
8 ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 9 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 10 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
--Deuteronomy 5:8 - 10
I had real issues with the guy bowing to the picture, I know people will say that the meaning is that he is bowing to Christ through the picture, but we are clearly commanded not to make an image of anything in heaven and bow down to it.
Creating these pictures of Christ (which look nothing like he actually looked, I guarantee Jesus was not a white man living amongst Jews) actually cheapens God by making us think of Him in lower fashion than we should and people who create these images and BOW TO THEM should not be praised, rather warned that God is very angry with them for what they have done and tempted others to do.
I don't mean to start an argument, I just need to get this off my chest.
8 ‘You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 9 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 10 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
--Deuteronomy 5:8 - 10
I had real issues with the guy bowing to the picture, I know people will say that the meaning is that he is bowing to Christ through the picture, but we are clearly commanded not to make an image of anything in heaven and bow down to it.
Creating these pictures of Christ (which look nothing like he actually looked, I guarantee Jesus was not a white man living amongst Jews) actually cheapens God by making us think of Him in lower fashion than we should and people who create these images and BOW TO THEM should not be praised, rather warned that God is very angry with them for what they have done and tempted others to do.
I don't mean to start an argument, I just need to get this off my chest.
Deuteronomy
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I think you bring up a good point, and we love having discussions here. And hopefully, there will be no arguments.
God was referring to the carved idols that the Pagans who were living in the region that the Israelites were traveling through used, and he didn't want His people to fall into that trap. Remember how some of the men were seduced by women who gave them the carved idols? If we were to take the passages you described to include paintings, then we could own no paintings. It does not refer only to Heavenly creatures, but to any likeness in Heaven, on earth, or in the seas.
However, Paul tells us in Romans Chapter 10 that Christ has set us free from the Law, which was there as a school teacher to point us to Jesus.
Romans 10
1Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
To bring up a pet peave of my own, why do Seventh-Day Adventists tell me I'm wrong to go to church on sunday, yet they break the very law that they are following by going to church on saturday? Didn't Paul tell us not to judge others by what day they call Holy? I had to work on a fire alarm system at a Seventh-Day church once, and it was just down the street from my church. I told them that, and they told me I was wrong for going to that church because they worshipped on sunday. When I asked them how they got to church on saturday and they told me by driving, I mentioned Exodus 35 where it says that we are not to do any work on the Sabbath, and we are not to kindle a fire. Driving a car kindles many fires per second. She got up and left.
God was referring to the carved idols that the Pagans who were living in the region that the Israelites were traveling through used, and he didn't want His people to fall into that trap. Remember how some of the men were seduced by women who gave them the carved idols? If we were to take the passages you described to include paintings, then we could own no paintings. It does not refer only to Heavenly creatures, but to any likeness in Heaven, on earth, or in the seas.
However, Paul tells us in Romans Chapter 10 that Christ has set us free from the Law, which was there as a school teacher to point us to Jesus.
Romans 10
1Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's righteousness. 4Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
To bring up a pet peave of my own, why do Seventh-Day Adventists tell me I'm wrong to go to church on sunday, yet they break the very law that they are following by going to church on saturday? Didn't Paul tell us not to judge others by what day they call Holy? I had to work on a fire alarm system at a Seventh-Day church once, and it was just down the street from my church. I told them that, and they told me I was wrong for going to that church because they worshipped on sunday. When I asked them how they got to church on saturday and they told me by driving, I mentioned Exodus 35 where it says that we are not to do any work on the Sabbath, and we are not to kindle a fire. Driving a car kindles many fires per second. She got up and left.
Fritz The Grand
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While I believe that a picture of Jesus can make us think less of Him (thinking of Him only as a man rather than the all-powerful God that He is as well) I do not think there is anything sinful about these pictures, my main point was that when the guy bowed to the faulty picture he violated the commandment.
Also, we could go on for hours about the Law and what we were set free from (I believe it refers to the sacrifices that no longer needed to be observed since Christ was our final sacrifice and not referring to the Ten Commandments) but that is another topic, along with how driving a car to church is considered a work of piety which is one of the works that God permits on the Sabbath.
Piety - preaching of the Word, group worship, travel to said worship
Need - cooking food and things like that
Mercy - mowing the elderly neighbors lawn for free, shoveling the walk of your partially paralyzed neighbor, etc.
Also, we could go on for hours about the Law and what we were set free from (I believe it refers to the sacrifices that no longer needed to be observed since Christ was our final sacrifice and not referring to the Ten Commandments) but that is another topic, along with how driving a car to church is considered a work of piety which is one of the works that God permits on the Sabbath.
Piety - preaching of the Word, group worship, travel to said worship
Need - cooking food and things like that
Mercy - mowing the elderly neighbors lawn for free, shoveling the walk of your partially paralyzed neighbor, etc.