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Ok guys Veteran Status is back. Please if you have questions bring them to any officer online and talk to them on vent for particular details. Read this fully. It will be a commitment if you choose this path. We are excited to make progression possible with Redeemed and give all players the opportunity to have a part in it.
UPDATED RAID SCHEDULE
Tues / 25 man ICC
Thur / 10 man ICC (hopefully, multiple teams)
Fri / Casual raid night
Mon / Raid continuation night (either 10/25 man ICC)
NON PUGGABLE RAIDS FOR VETS: ICC 10, ICC 25, VAULT (unless after Fri or released to do so by raid leaders)
Veteran Status
Mission Statement: To raid end game content and make steady progression. To offer Redeemed members a end game raiding opportunity. To assist regular Redeemed members in their play experience. To above all be an example of Christian values and attitude to all people on the Stonemaul server. Redeemed Vet Status first is a privilege not a right. Veterans are a group of people who desire put their play time purely into end game content and raiding progression. Veteran status is earned by displaying that you can raid successfully no matter what your gear is. Veterans must have a positive attitude towards raiding with Redeemed and display a team player attitude, working to improve Redeemed progression and work to gear other Veterans as well as yourself. No member in Redeemed is automatically granted Vet status. Members of Redeemed are allowed only one character with Veteran Status.
Veteran Privilege: Raid officers have the right to invite Veterans first and then any regular members needed at anytime to a raid. The benefit to a Veteran is a raid spot. Veterans will always be invited before any regular member for determined progression content.
Gaining Veteran Status
Veterans must agree to not pug any raids that Redeemed is currently scheduling until leadership releases them, usually after Fri.
To gain Veteran Status you must be nominated for Veteran status from a raid officer and then gain 3/4 of the vote totals from current Veterans. Veteran status may be changed to another character only if applied for and voted again from the current list of Veterans. Veteran Status may be removed at any time by the raid leadership. At that time a vote would be taken from current Veterans. The member in question must again receive 3/4 vote from the current Veterans to gain Veteran status back. Veterans are allowed to have other characters but not that actively raid with other guilds. Veteran Status will not be available to any member that raids with any other guild on Stonemaul or another Server including Horde. Once Raid leadership decides on a candidate to be up for Veteran Status all Veterans will have a vote and give reasons to why or why not the individual should be confirmed or denied from Veteran Status. The reasons will be explained to the member who did not get 3/4 vote by a class lead or raid officer and they will be told what they need to do to be considered again in the future.
Skill: End game raiding not only has gear checks but it also has skill checks of players. Each player who wishes to be a Veteran will have to prove their ability to play their class to its potential. If it is determined that a “DPS” class for instance is underperforming that player will not be considered to gain Veteran status. Every class will have a leader that will help with details of that class. The simpler version is Veteran status is “performance” based not gear based. If you lack for any reason attitude or ability to perform you will not be nominated for a vote for Veteran status. Clear set reasons will be given to you why you are being denied a nomination for a vote.
Redeemed applications: Any Redeemed member can be considered to become part of the Veteran status. They will have to earn however the raid leaders respect and other Veterans to gain the opportunity to be voted on. Every night a regular member raids is trial basis and they may be invited at the discretion of raid leaders / officers.
Class Leaders: Class leaders will be elected by Veterans. To be a class lead you must first be a Veteran (unless leadership determines that there is no Vet currently available for that class, they may put a vet who plays another class temporarily to fill it).
Tips on gaining Veteran Status:
• Find out who your class leader is and work with them on you skill / gear. Your class leader has/should have done it all. Gearing, learning rotations, etc. He/she is your most important tool in becoming a Veteran. They will help you with all your questions.
• Read and be familiar with Redeemed’s current Raiding policies. This includes Raid etiquette, loot rules, attendance, etc.
• During this process, you should be raiding with the guild when you can. This is your chance to shine in front of the Raid leader(s) and you’re Class Leader (if they are also in attendance). If you are currently trying to achieve Veteran status, make sure your Class Leader (Raid Leader if your CL is absent) knows so they can pay more attention to your performance during the raid. Veteran status is not just having gear. It is also performance based.
• Once you feel you are ready, approach your Class Leader. They will inspect your gear to make sure that they are up to requirements and will advise you on any necessary changes that need to be made, if any. They will also solicit feedback on your raid performance and participation if they do not know you personally.
• Once your CL feels you are ready to be a Veteran, they can inform the Head Raid Leader. The decision will be made as to whether you will be put to a vote and you will be informed ASAP.
Keeping Veteran Status
There is no play time requirement. However at officer discretion if a player cannot make the majority of raids the member may be removed from Veteran status. After removed current Veterans will vote to confirm or deny the player Veteran Status. All Veterans signing the charter agree to follow these guidelines and do exactly as the raid leadership asks.
VET Mentality: Each member will agree to follow officer orders and be present if on line for raiding events. No play time is required but each online veteran is expected to be available at any time to run 10man or 25man instances. Veterans will drop farming, socializing, or any other activities at the request of the officers to raid, gather supplies, key or gear members for raiding events.
Listening Skills: All veterans will be silent in vent and listen to instructions. Raid times are for raiding not talking to your friend over vent. There is one raid leader. He or She is the one speaking. AFK players will not be tolerated and repeated offenses could mean in Veteran removal. The goal of Veteran membership is to accomplish as much as possible in as short amount of time possible at each raiding event. Keeping a brisk pace and everyone alert is the highest importance to overall progression.
Conduct: Although our purpose is end game content we do not forget who we are. Redeemed is a Christ centered guild that looks to bring Christians together in fellowship and reach others for Christ through our actions. Veterans will at all times follow this code of conduct to each other, Redeemed members and the rest of our server.
Losing Veteran Status: There is no, “Once a Veteran, always a Veteran.” There are certain scenarios where you may lose Veteran status, depending on the judgment of raid leaders.
• Gross insubordination/disrespect during a raid. The most unlikely of scenarios, but we live in a real world. If there is any negativity during raids, it will be addressed by the Raid Leader with a warning. The continuance of a behavior that hinders the raid or goes against Redeemed’s policies warrants the suspension/revocation of one’s Veteran status pending collaboration between the Raid Leaders/Guild Leaders.
• Failure to adhere to the current Raiding policies/etiquette guidelines. This is self-explanatory and again, hopefully, another unlikely scenario.
• PuG'ing or going with another guild to scheduled raids, or during scheduled raids prior to a given raid's invites going out.
If anyone at any time falls into one of the above categories, a warning will be issued to the offending Veteran via in-game mail/Forum PM so that there is a documented track of the offense. Persisting offenses will result in suspension/revocation of Veteran status.
Mains, Alts, and Specs
Vets need to declare a main, declare a main spec and WL add with their vet toon for progression runs unless otherwise requested. Members can only have one toon classified as a Vet.
If you are a vet and wish to change your main or your spec you must let leadership know, then post your change in the Raid Admin forum. You will/may be required to go through the gaining vet status process again with a new main, or your new spec. You simply can not declare a new spec right before a raid and then expect to get loot for that spec, there is a process to follow. After you have your new main/spec make sure an officer updates your in game roster notes for raid leaders to see.
Each players should have their main/specs posted on their in game guild notes to help the Raid Leader when he/she is setting up the group (if you don't see it listed there, ask an officer to add it to you notes). A player may raid on whichever toon they prefer unless they are a vet doing progression, then they need to bring their main to progressions runs, and an alt only if requested/or approved for that run (the raid leader may occasionally request any player bring a specific toon if needed). Raiding points still follow each individual toon, and gear follows main specs still even if you are asked to play your offspec for a run.
Dual Specs: Since dual-specs have been fully implemented into the game, it is highly recommended that you become an asset to the raiding community from more than one angle, if your class.
Veteran Roster
Veteran status and veteran population will be determined by the availability of players and classes. As Veteran numbers grow current Veterans will determine needed classes by playtime of players and determine additional people to be considered for Veteran status. Once enough of each class and type is in the Veteran membership applications may be closed until further classes are needed.
UPDATED RAID SCHEDULE
Tues / 25 man ICC
Thur / 10 man ICC (hopefully, multiple teams)
Fri / Casual raid night
Mon / Raid continuation night (either 10/25 man ICC)
NON PUGGABLE RAIDS FOR VETS: ICC 10, ICC 25, VAULT (unless after Fri or released to do so by raid leaders)
Veteran Status
Mission Statement: To raid end game content and make steady progression. To offer Redeemed members a end game raiding opportunity. To assist regular Redeemed members in their play experience. To above all be an example of Christian values and attitude to all people on the Stonemaul server. Redeemed Vet Status first is a privilege not a right. Veterans are a group of people who desire put their play time purely into end game content and raiding progression. Veteran status is earned by displaying that you can raid successfully no matter what your gear is. Veterans must have a positive attitude towards raiding with Redeemed and display a team player attitude, working to improve Redeemed progression and work to gear other Veterans as well as yourself. No member in Redeemed is automatically granted Vet status. Members of Redeemed are allowed only one character with Veteran Status.
Veteran Privilege: Raid officers have the right to invite Veterans first and then any regular members needed at anytime to a raid. The benefit to a Veteran is a raid spot. Veterans will always be invited before any regular member for determined progression content.
Gaining Veteran Status
Veterans must agree to not pug any raids that Redeemed is currently scheduling until leadership releases them, usually after Fri.
To gain Veteran Status you must be nominated for Veteran status from a raid officer and then gain 3/4 of the vote totals from current Veterans. Veteran status may be changed to another character only if applied for and voted again from the current list of Veterans. Veteran Status may be removed at any time by the raid leadership. At that time a vote would be taken from current Veterans. The member in question must again receive 3/4 vote from the current Veterans to gain Veteran status back. Veterans are allowed to have other characters but not that actively raid with other guilds. Veteran Status will not be available to any member that raids with any other guild on Stonemaul or another Server including Horde. Once Raid leadership decides on a candidate to be up for Veteran Status all Veterans will have a vote and give reasons to why or why not the individual should be confirmed or denied from Veteran Status. The reasons will be explained to the member who did not get 3/4 vote by a class lead or raid officer and they will be told what they need to do to be considered again in the future.
Skill: End game raiding not only has gear checks but it also has skill checks of players. Each player who wishes to be a Veteran will have to prove their ability to play their class to its potential. If it is determined that a “DPS” class for instance is underperforming that player will not be considered to gain Veteran status. Every class will have a leader that will help with details of that class. The simpler version is Veteran status is “performance” based not gear based. If you lack for any reason attitude or ability to perform you will not be nominated for a vote for Veteran status. Clear set reasons will be given to you why you are being denied a nomination for a vote.
Redeemed applications: Any Redeemed member can be considered to become part of the Veteran status. They will have to earn however the raid leaders respect and other Veterans to gain the opportunity to be voted on. Every night a regular member raids is trial basis and they may be invited at the discretion of raid leaders / officers.
Class Leaders: Class leaders will be elected by Veterans. To be a class lead you must first be a Veteran (unless leadership determines that there is no Vet currently available for that class, they may put a vet who plays another class temporarily to fill it).
Tips on gaining Veteran Status:
• Find out who your class leader is and work with them on you skill / gear. Your class leader has/should have done it all. Gearing, learning rotations, etc. He/she is your most important tool in becoming a Veteran. They will help you with all your questions.
• Read and be familiar with Redeemed’s current Raiding policies. This includes Raid etiquette, loot rules, attendance, etc.
• During this process, you should be raiding with the guild when you can. This is your chance to shine in front of the Raid leader(s) and you’re Class Leader (if they are also in attendance). If you are currently trying to achieve Veteran status, make sure your Class Leader (Raid Leader if your CL is absent) knows so they can pay more attention to your performance during the raid. Veteran status is not just having gear. It is also performance based.
• Once you feel you are ready, approach your Class Leader. They will inspect your gear to make sure that they are up to requirements and will advise you on any necessary changes that need to be made, if any. They will also solicit feedback on your raid performance and participation if they do not know you personally.
• Once your CL feels you are ready to be a Veteran, they can inform the Head Raid Leader. The decision will be made as to whether you will be put to a vote and you will be informed ASAP.
Keeping Veteran Status
There is no play time requirement. However at officer discretion if a player cannot make the majority of raids the member may be removed from Veteran status. After removed current Veterans will vote to confirm or deny the player Veteran Status. All Veterans signing the charter agree to follow these guidelines and do exactly as the raid leadership asks.
VET Mentality: Each member will agree to follow officer orders and be present if on line for raiding events. No play time is required but each online veteran is expected to be available at any time to run 10man or 25man instances. Veterans will drop farming, socializing, or any other activities at the request of the officers to raid, gather supplies, key or gear members for raiding events.
Listening Skills: All veterans will be silent in vent and listen to instructions. Raid times are for raiding not talking to your friend over vent. There is one raid leader. He or She is the one speaking. AFK players will not be tolerated and repeated offenses could mean in Veteran removal. The goal of Veteran membership is to accomplish as much as possible in as short amount of time possible at each raiding event. Keeping a brisk pace and everyone alert is the highest importance to overall progression.
Conduct: Although our purpose is end game content we do not forget who we are. Redeemed is a Christ centered guild that looks to bring Christians together in fellowship and reach others for Christ through our actions. Veterans will at all times follow this code of conduct to each other, Redeemed members and the rest of our server.
Losing Veteran Status: There is no, “Once a Veteran, always a Veteran.” There are certain scenarios where you may lose Veteran status, depending on the judgment of raid leaders.
• Gross insubordination/disrespect during a raid. The most unlikely of scenarios, but we live in a real world. If there is any negativity during raids, it will be addressed by the Raid Leader with a warning. The continuance of a behavior that hinders the raid or goes against Redeemed’s policies warrants the suspension/revocation of one’s Veteran status pending collaboration between the Raid Leaders/Guild Leaders.
• Failure to adhere to the current Raiding policies/etiquette guidelines. This is self-explanatory and again, hopefully, another unlikely scenario.
• PuG'ing or going with another guild to scheduled raids, or during scheduled raids prior to a given raid's invites going out.
If anyone at any time falls into one of the above categories, a warning will be issued to the offending Veteran via in-game mail/Forum PM so that there is a documented track of the offense. Persisting offenses will result in suspension/revocation of Veteran status.
Mains, Alts, and Specs
Vets need to declare a main, declare a main spec and WL add with their vet toon for progression runs unless otherwise requested. Members can only have one toon classified as a Vet.
If you are a vet and wish to change your main or your spec you must let leadership know, then post your change in the Raid Admin forum. You will/may be required to go through the gaining vet status process again with a new main, or your new spec. You simply can not declare a new spec right before a raid and then expect to get loot for that spec, there is a process to follow. After you have your new main/spec make sure an officer updates your in game roster notes for raid leaders to see.
Each players should have their main/specs posted on their in game guild notes to help the Raid Leader when he/she is setting up the group (if you don't see it listed there, ask an officer to add it to you notes). A player may raid on whichever toon they prefer unless they are a vet doing progression, then they need to bring their main to progressions runs, and an alt only if requested/or approved for that run (the raid leader may occasionally request any player bring a specific toon if needed). Raiding points still follow each individual toon, and gear follows main specs still even if you are asked to play your offspec for a run.
Dual Specs: Since dual-specs have been fully implemented into the game, it is highly recommended that you become an asset to the raiding community from more than one angle, if your class.
Veteran Roster
Veteran status and veteran population will be determined by the availability of players and classes. As Veteran numbers grow current Veterans will determine needed classes by playtime of players and determine additional people to be considered for Veteran status. Once enough of each class and type is in the Veteran membership applications may be closed until further classes are needed.
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