Where is spot?....

Avesther

Avesther

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What is your Dr. DoLittle's perspective on this for a spiritual viewpoint-?

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Quote[/b] ]I read in my bible that the lion will one day lie down with the lamb. Will my pets be along with me in heaven-?
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interestingly, if the genesis creation account is to be believed, lions laid down with sheep before the fall, too (since there was no death)...makes you wonder what the carnivorous lions, though, who are built to eat meat, were eating...i'll bet they were happy when eve took a bite
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So, does fluffy have a spirit?

The animals before, during and immediatly after the flood appearantly were fully aware of God.

The bible only talks about salvation for man, maybe animals don't need a guide to salvation?

If the rocks now who Jesus is, then why wouldn't an animal?

Is there anything in the bible that says that animals don't have a God fearing spirit and they would not be in heavan?
 
Whenever people ask me this, I give the same reply:

So, by wanting to know if your pets will be in heaven, you mean that just being with God won't satisfy you enough?

That usually shuts them up.
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Nothing more then an attempt to start up some interesting banter other than the current political correctness issues found in other posts about Leo and Adelpit.

I have been on this planet for 31+ years, and I assume I will see antoher 50+ years.  Thats alot of time to meditate and think about how wonderful it will be in heavan.  And the truth is, I will not spend all my time here on earth with my mind simply on that.  But, as it happens, I do think about it.  And I pose a question for discussion.  A question, one of many, that pops up along the lines of what will heaven be like.

Your response is excellent for shutting people up, if that is your intent.  Rather, my intent is to get people to contemplate upon such issues.  If it is okay to wonder upon the vastness and greatness of the new Jerusalem, or what it would be like to stand or bow, or sing or talk with and to our King, or what shape or form we will take, or how will we recognize those who are around us while in heavan, then certainly and reasonable question in to contemplate in our anticipated 80+ years of existance on this planet is, what of our pets and other animals.

So, is your intent to truly to shut people up, stiffling the flow of thought and questions?  Simply wanting to know if pets or other animals, for whatever case that may be, will likewise be in heavan has nothing to, what so ever, do with the sufficiency of God.
 
lol for me i dont expect to see my fav pets in heaven. however ove read many accounts on people who have been on Africa and have banished demons while their pets seem to be barking at, so i believe that animals are aware of the supernatural, wether it be demons or angels, satan or God
 
hmm....

God created this heaven and earth, and like it or not, it will be a model for the New Heaven and the New Earth (read descriptions in Revelations, things such as trees, rivers, etc). So why would God not put animals there?

As well, the Bible says that the lamb and the lion will lay down in the fields togethor, how can we have them in the fields if they're not there.



besides let's think of this logically. if animals have a soul, then they must be fully aware of Christ and God, and do not exist in a fallen state the way man does. if they don't have a soul, then they'll exist to make us happy as part of the furnishings of our mansions.
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Gods_Peon @ Nov. 21 2003,12:33)]So, is your intent to truly to shut people up, stiffling the flow of thought and questions?  Simply wanting to know if pets or other animals, for whatever case that may be, will likewise be in heavan has nothing to, what so ever, do with the sufficiency of God.
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Whoa...I never said that to mean you specifically should shut up; if that's how that came across I do indeed apologize!

I look at this logistically.  While in heaven we will be truly happy, I personally don't think that will involve our pets, although Kidan does bring out good points.  I know this is a way of skirting the issue, but my answer tends to lean more toward the side of "Well, what does it truly matter?"  I suppose if seeing your pets makes you feel better, then that could be the case...I don't think God wants us to be "unhappy" about that sort of thing.  Then again, I personally could really care less whether I see my pets or not -- I get to see God!

So, yeah, I realize my answer is pretty black and white, but I think it is a valid point of view.  From my own experiences I try to steer clear of these sorts of questions because in some cases they lead to trite arguments.  I am not saying that will be the case in this thread, but those are my two cents there.  Again I apologize if I've incited anger by my previous post.
 
The whole thing about meat eaters being simply carnivorus has always bothered me with the "lion&lamb" deal. I did some research a while back, and a group scientists came up with the theory, a very well supported theory at that, that those sharp teeth were more adept at chewing away thick pieces of foilange, like a saw.

Doesn't seem likely, but it was very interesting. I'll have to look it up again sometime and post it.

Van
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] ]besides let's think of this logically.  if animals have a soul, then they must be fully aware of Christ and God, and do not exist in a fallen state the way man does.  if they don't have a soul, then they'll exist to make us happy as part of the furnishings of our mansions.
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Amen Kidan!
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[b said:
Quote[/b] ]The whole thing about meat eaters being simply carnivorus has always bothered me with the "lion&lamb" deal. I did some research a while back, and a group scientists came up with the theory, a very well supported theory at that, that those sharp teeth were more adept at chewing away thick pieces of foilange, like a saw.

Doesn't seem likely, but it was very interesting. I'll have to look it up again sometime and post it.

Van
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Carnivorism didn't exist until after the flood. In Genesis 9:3-6, God gives all that lives as meat to man. There is no reason to believe carnivorism existed at all before that point in time, including by Lion, Tiger or Bears, oh my.
 
God cares muchly about all his creation. Jesus even said that a sparrow will not fall to the ground apart from the fathers will. And in proverbs (I can't recall the verse), we are told that a righteous man tends to the animals in his care. And God is righteous and tends to the animals in his care, and we are to follow Jesus' example and Jesus said he only does what he sees his father do. God brought not only man through the flood, but also the animals. The covenant and promise was not only made to Noah, but to the Animals as well.

God obviously cares about all of his creation and has great plans beyond our wildest imagination for each and every creature he has ever spoke into creation.

I believe that Spot is in heavan because God cares for and about Spot. Thats kewl, not a mute point.
 
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