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Technically they have to inform you...so I will be calling them every week to find out and complaining that I cannot do it online...
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I think this is a great idea. If Comcast sees an increase in call volume related to the cap and in the end costs them more money, perhaps someone will reverse this policy that only affect 1% of their users
 
Genesis1315 said:
I think this is a great idea. If Comcast sees an increase in call volume related to the cap and in the end costs them more money, perhaps someone will reverse this policy that only affect 1% of their users
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No, that would be the smart decision. Instead you will probably see them laying off workers to cut costs, improving their already wonderful customer service.
 
60Gig cap here, 2 comps on WoW most evenings, a third on some Steam account, or Unreal Tourney or something. That doesn't even included normal online activity, laptop in the kitchen activity, or XBox live activity. Never touched the cap. I know some people here talked about streaming HD over the INet, but why? I just learned to watch HD channels and watch HD movies and the like on my 52" HD TV where bandwidth is not an issue.

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Mathamatically, lets assume you use the internet the same way I do, and use all 60G of my alotted use per month, that means you still have 190G left for extra-cirucular use. And then you use that to stream 5 to 6G movies. Lets further assume that when streaming movies, 80% of the bandwidth use is download use and 20% is upload use so you get 152G of straight download. That would net you 25 to 31 movies a month. About a movie a day. Which I suspect is more movie watching then 90% of the population. Most people will still watch TV shows, spend time with the family not on the computer watching streaming movies, going out with friends, just living life. I think 250G is most likely out of reach for 99.99% of the users of these forums.
 
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On a busy month, I usually hit around 150GB of data, not including uploads...that is straight from downloads...I have a 400GB external HD that is usually half full after 2 months that I have to clean up...having a 60GB cap would be horrible...
 
Depends on what you are downloading I suppose. I really can't imagine what you would download that would consume over 100G of bandwidth that you would keep on your hard drive only to delete in a month anyway. That too me sounds like a waste of bandwidth, resources and time. Like I said, at 60G's I haven't even touched the cap. And I think all I do is waste time and resources on this dreadful internet. (Just playing WoW has had a negative impact on my resources. Yes I've made lots of great friends, but it has also been a source of great dissatisfaction and consumes way more time then it probably ought to.)

Back to work for me, lunch is over.
 
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Gods_Peon said:
60Gig cap here, 2 comps on WoW most evenings, a third on some Steam account, or Unreal Tourney or something. That doesn't even included normal online activity, laptop in the kitchen activity, or XBox live activity. Never touched the cap. I know some people here talked about streaming HD over the INet, but why? I just learned to watch HD channels and watch HD movies and the like on my 52" HD TV where bandwidth is not an issue.

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Mathamatically, lets assume you use the internet the same way I do, and use all 60G of my alotted use per month, that means you still have 190G left for extra-cirucular use. And then you use that to stream 5 to 6G movies. Lets further assume that when streaming movies, 80% of the bandwidth use is download use and 20% is upload use so you get 152G of straight download. That would net you 25 to 31 movies a month. About a movie a day. Which I suspect is more movie watching then 90% of the population. Most people will still watch TV shows, spend time with the family not on the computer watching streaming movies, going out with friends, just living life. I think 250G is most likely out of reach for 99.99% of the users of these forums.
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comcast compresses their HD so it looks like blown up compressed hd video. I can get that from the internet without paying $50-100/month extra.
 
Gods_Peon said:
Depends on what you are downloading I suppose. I really can't imagine what you would download that would consume over 100G of bandwidth that you would keep on your hard drive only to delete in a month anyway. That too me sounds like a waste of bandwidth, resources and time. Like I said, at 60G's I haven't even touched the cap. And I think all I do is waste time and resources on this dreadful internet. (Just playing WoW has had a negative impact on my resources. Yes I've made lots of great friends, but it has also been a source of great dissatisfaction and consumes way more time then it probably ought to.)

Back to work for me, lunch is over.
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.5 gig for various windows service packs for clients, 4 gig here or there for linus distro updates, podcasting,pandora, live video streams..etc etc. at the end of this month i'll check my logs to see my usage..i ahve yet to see them for aug..:)
 
Hescominsoon said:
comcast compresses their HD so it looks like blown up compressed hd video. I can get that from the internet without paying $50-100/month extra.
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All cable providers have to compress their HD to some extent to make all those channels fit in the available bandwidth.
 
Genesis1315 said:
I think this is a great idea. If Comcast sees an increase in call volume related to the cap and in the end costs them more money, perhaps someone will reverse this policy that only affect 1% of their users
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So...I think I'm missing something. If the cap isn't going to affect you, or 99% of the users, what is the issue?
 
Can't say whether or not it will affect my household, but I think putting a cap on the usage is a pretty ridiculous policy. Given the other times I have had to fight with comcast to get correct billing, I am almost sure that this is going to create problems too. I can see our service getting cut off because we did not hit the cap and then having a reconnect charge added to the bill. (and yes, I said "did not hit the cap"). My experience with comcast has been less than stellar, but our options are limited for high speed access so we have to stay with them...for now.

\me heads off to check current comcast bill online for extraneous charges....
 
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Sounds like you guys have limited your own options. The reality is, bandwidth is limited and it costs money to increase it. So long as people beleive they have unlimited access to limited resources and act in such a way, you will deplete them faster then you can replace or upgrade them. The cost of upgrading bandwidth is costly to the providers, those costs are then transferred rightfully to you the consumer who benefits from it. But the visicious cycle continues in that you the consumer does not pay for what they percieve as a service they already have, when in fact you do not have. The nodes already have a physical bandwidth cap on them and if everybody on that nod acted as if that nod had no limit, you'd simply cause brownouts in service across the nod. Causing people to complain about the service or the lack off. When it is the customers themselves who may well have caused the lack off service in the first place.
 
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Sounds like you guys have limited your own options. The reality is, bandwidth is limited and it costs money to increase it. So long as people beleive they have unlimited access to limited resources and act in such a way, you will deplete them faster then you can replace or upgrade them. The cost of upgrading bandwidth is costly to the providers, those costs are then transferred rightfully to you the consumer who benefits from it. But the visicious cycle continues in that you the consumer does not pay for what they percieve as a service they already have, when in fact you do not have. The nodes already have a physical bandwidth cap on them and if everybody on that nod acted as if that nod had no limit, you'd simply cause brownouts in service across the nod. Causing people to complain about the service or the lack off. When it is the customers themselves who may well have caused the lack off service in the first place.
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Bandwidth at the top level is paid for in mbps. What comcast is trying to do is advertise say 20mbps, but they are only allowing you to use what is essentially a 1mbps line with the cap.
 
vibrokatana said:
Bandwidth at the top level is paid for in mbps. What comcast is trying to do is advertise say 20mbps, but they are only allowing you to use what is essentially a 1mbps line with the cap.
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And if you have 21 people attempting to use 1mbps each on a 20mbps connection, you get a bottle neck. Doesn't matter if you view it in mbps or gigs of data transfer, there is still a physical limit to the hardware.
 
Gods_Peon said:
And if you have 21 people attempting to use 1mbps each on a 20mbps connection, you get a bottle neck. Doesn't matter if you view it in mbps or gigs of data transfer, there is still a physical limit to the hardware.
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Yes, but that doesn't mean that comcast can impose limits because they are attempting to oversell their service. If they offer a 15mbps connection, then you should be allowed to max it out all day long. Imposing a limit on the transfer is just an opt out to avoid upgrading their network. They will keep lowering the limit and pumping up the maximum speed in an attempt to slap fines on people who are doing nothing wrong.
 
So, if I were the owner of a manufacturing company and said I had the capacity to produce tens of thousands of product and 50,000 people came to me, I should be able to produce 50,000 x capacity all the time? Or is it reasonable that the 50,000 people expect capacity / demand adjusted for the customers ability to afford their allotment?
 
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Gods_Peon said:
So, if I were the owner of a manufacturing company and said I had the capacity to produce tens of thousands of product and 50,000 people came to me, I should be able to produce 50,000 x capacity all the time? Or is it reasonable that the 50,000 people expect capacity / demand adjusted for the customers ability to afford their allotment?
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No, but then again I don't take 10,000 orders and say it is being shipped when only 100 units are going out.
 
I'm going to drop out of this because honestly, I don't live the life you guys and I wouldn't want to. Seriously, if 250G transfer isn't enough for you and 60G is too much for me, all I'm saying is obviously I spend less time in front of the computer on the internet then you all. And I like it that way.
 
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