I'd like your input

I believe you should take any holiday and put it into perspective of how you intrepret it. I feel like satan is trying to undermine the time period of some very important beliefs of christians.
Easter overshadows a very important time of the bible about when Jesus was crucified and when he was resurrected from the grave. As Christmas is a time when we should reflect on what God done for us, gave us a gift. He sent His only begotten Son into the world and was born. I don't think that Dec. 25th is the actual date of Jesus's birth but it is the day most of us celebrate as such. I know my children know what easter and Christmas is all about.
Halloween- it should be outlawed. To much emphasis on evil.
Thanksgiving- love that turkey.
 
I have a question for all you Christians. Do you actually have any HOLY Days that you celebrate, or are they all holidays?

Get the subtle difference?

If I was going to celebrate any holy day, God gave seven examples in the OT, that was good enough for Him, shouldn't it be good enough for you? But how many Christians do you know celebrate the Passover, the Days of Unleavened Bread or the Feast of Tabernacles? Scant few.

Coldsteel you said, "I know my children know what easter and Christmas is all about."

I want to place emphasis on ALL ABOUT. Do they really know about Easter? Why it's called Easter? What the pagan background to that day is? Do they know the Pagan foundations placed behind Christmas including the day you celebrate it on? THAT is knowing ALL about the Holidays. Anything else is only what you WANT them to know about those holidays and that's not exactly being honest with them is it? Then again, I don't know how old your kids are.

I find it horribly ironic that most parents, Christian and non, raise their kids with one strict rule, "DO NOT LIE" and then go on to perpetuate the biggest lie of all. That of a jolly old fat man in a red suit and a day whose trappings have absolutely nothing to do with what the day is supposed to be about. Ironic.
 
What there's no Santa.
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:'(
 
[b said:
Quote[/b] (Dark Virtue @ Sep. 10 2004,8:58)] Face it, I've committed the ultimate sin against God:  I knew His word and rejected it. Sorry, no hope for me.
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I guess you are what they call an apostate instead of an athiest.

\A*pos"tate\, n. [L. apostata, Gr. ?, fr. ?. See Apostasy.] 1. One who has forsaken the faith, principles, or party, to which he before adhered; esp., one who has forsaken his religion for another; a pervert; a renegade.

2. (R. C. Ch.) One who, after having received sacred orders, renounces his clerical profession.


Heb 6:4 For as touching those who were once enlightened and tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Spirit,

Heb 6:5 and tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the age to come,

Heb 6:6 and [then] fell away, it is impossible to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more a sacrifice for sins,

2pe 2:20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein and overcome, the last state is become worse with them than the first.

2pe 2:21 For it were better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn back from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

2pe 2:22 It has happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog turning to his own vomit again, and the sow that had washed to wallowing in the mire.

The Lord rebuke thee...
 
Now that definition seems to fit.

I guess I have been rebuked :P

In other words, I am seriously screwed and have absolutely no hope whatsoever.
 
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Quote[/b] (Dark Virtue @ Sep. 12 2004,4:47)]In other words, I am seriously screwed and have absolutely no hope whatsoever.
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Sad but true my friend if you truly are an Apostate , I don't know your heart or your spiritual walk with Christ was like before or if you were truly saved before and are just misguided in life by the evil one. Only you and God know your heart for sure.
 
sry to just jump in but i've monitoring this post and thought i would add my 2 cents.

what is there to prove? what about God and the Bible do you not believe or not understand? did something happen to u that caused u to "fall from grace"?

if u choose not to explain, i understand.
 
Take a look a the other threads, that will give you a good example of the questions I have.

To put it simply, I doubt the divinity of the Bible, and since it is the foundation for Christianity, my doubt extends to all of Christianity.
 
Let's play a game keeping in spirit of this thread.

WHO AM I?


I said, "He who will not eat of my body and drink of my blood, so that he will be made on with me and I with him, the same shall not know salvation."

I was born on Dec. 25 and my birth was witnessed by shepherds and by gift-carrying Magi.

I was born of a virgin birth and died for your sins.

I performed many miracles, cured many illnesses, and cast out devils.

I celebrated a Last Supper with my 12 disciples.

I have been referred to as the Good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, and the Messiah.

A symbol commonly associated with me is the Lamb.

I was buried in a rock tomb then rose again three days later, and then ascended into heaven shortly after.

Some of my followers hold services on Sunday and have rituals including a Eucharist and six other sacraments.



My name is....

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MITHRA!

Some other interesting facts about Mithra:

Mithra was a fictional character who had a religion founded in his name in the 6th century BCE.

Mithraism one of the most popular of religions in the Roman Empire, particularly among its soldiers and civil servants. It was Christianity's leading rival.

Some individuals who are skeptical about stories of Jesus' life suspect that Christianity may have appropriated many details of Mithraism in order to make their religion more acceptable to Pagans. St. Augustine even stated that the priests of Mithra worshipped the same God as he did.

References:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa1.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/virgin_b1.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_sel.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcno.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcno.htm
 
ooo...mithraism.

Jesus was the fullfillment of Old Testament prophicies, New testiment writters didn't need any outside influence. Besides, early Mithraism had no concept of the death and resurrection of its god and no place for any concept of rebirth. It is far more probable that as Mithraism developed, it started to adopt Christian concepts. Given that all of the Christian themes are found in the Old Testament and the Old Testament was begun around 2000 B.C. and completed around 400 B.C., we can then conclude that these pagan religions actually borrowed from Jewish ideas found in the Old Testament.
 
It has to make sence that christianity borrowed from paganism or some other religion, look at the other thread about holidays.

Here's a site that defends the simularities from a christian perspective. I haven't read all the articles but its an interesting read. Just remember it is a christian website, so I don't agree with everything, because the site tries to justify everything in the bible. But I have learned alot from it.

CopyCat
 
I don't know anything about Mithraism, but I don't have a hard time believing that Christianity borrowed some of its ideas, seeing as it did that a whooole lot. Even the concept of god eating, ie communion, came from an outside source...the Mayans I believe.
 
The Mayans just ate each other
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And I find it hard to believe, along with most rational people, that Christianity didn't borrow ANYTHING for its religion.

Look at Easter and Christmas for example. That's a great example of merging pagan and Christian concepts together. Taking that into account with the early church whose habit it was to murder and wipe out any opposition while drawing in its followers and it gets harder and harder to deny the possibility.
 
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