Ok Kutluch, I'm gonna be nice.Much of the above statement was very oversimplified.
Regarding the world being overpopulated, there are only a few regions of the world that are growing in population (India, China (China looks as though their population is going to start leveling off in the next 50 years) and a few other 3rd world areas in the world). For the most part, established nations have a stable or shrinking population. Many European nations haven't seen population growth in decades. Japan's elderly population (people over 65) is much larger than its child population. The US is beginning to level off as well.
As for your evolutionist lies bit, I am not sure I know of any evolutionists who think abortions are equatable to survival of the fittest. I personally believe in some form of evolution and sure, we do have survival of the fittest, but our brains (whether you want to argue whether they were given to us directly from God or it was God who helped us develop them) have helped us survive all of the epidemics we have faced thus far (we are still here, aren't we?).
As for growing your own food, many people cannot (and I assume you include US citizens in there when you say "everyone") afford the time or the money to grow their own food. Growing your own food requires an absurdly large investment in the beginning and it is something that you cannot be slack with. This investment includes seeds, farming tools and supplies, knowledge and most importantly... LAND! Your little hobby garden in the backyard will not support an entire family. After my Grandfather retired years ago, he started his own garden and was able to feed himself and my Grandmother off of it... but it was nearly 1.5 acres large! Most house plots aren't that large. It requires load of effort to start and massive amounts of time and dedication to keep going. Feeding yourself and the rest of your family from your own garden requires a kind of energy and dedication (there are better words that I can't think of) that the U.S. mentality doesn't support (meaning you cannot grow your own food and operate like a "normal" American family).
Could you elaborate upon that? Saying God is in control is a bit of a cop-out answer.
An abortion is an abortion is an abortion. The only variable that makes one abortion more acceptable than another is circumstance.
I don't think that God wants us to have to spend all of our money on our kids. That's like living paycheck to paycheck, which sucks... trust me. I think God wants us to have as many kids as we can possibly handle and still give them a good quality life and set them up to succeed. If you have 10 children, then you must divide up your time with them 10 different ways, versus if you only had 2 or 3 children. Just think of Jon and Kate + 8 (or whatever it's called now).
As for adoption, it isn't viable for some people. You can't just wake up and decide you want to adopt a child. It costs LOADS of money (which I think people forget sometimes). There is a couple at my mother's church who are raising money so that they can adopt a child of their own (they cannot have babies). They need $30,000 for the adoption fees. It can be more depending on where you live as well. It isn't cheap.
When I said the world wasn't overpopulated, I was refering to the fact that there is more than enough room for there to be more people on this earth. It's not overpopulated.
I'm not saying evolutionists look at abortion as survival of the fittest. I'm saying that they look at it as the world is overpopulated, we need to control the population, and abortion is one easy way of doing it if we are all just evolved animals.
I just went back to silverleaf's post and realized I misread it to say that we don't have enough food. I didn't mean people needed to grow their own food. I meant that if there is a reason for lack of food, it would be not enough farms, as there is plenty of room for more. Not that we can't produce more. Sorry for misreading that.
I don't understand what there is to elaborate on. I never said that a barren woman was disobeying God, and answered a question with a question.
I agree with you on your abortion statement.
I think you read too much into what I wrote. I didn't say you have to spend everything on your children, and yes, you do need to set your children up to succeed. Jon and Kate + 8... I don't know much about them, but the little bit I do know is that it is not, and definately should not, be used as an example for a Christian home. The Dougars (sp?) would be a much better example for a large family.
I didn't say adoption was an option for everyone. However, there are tons of people out there who want to adopt infants, and have the money to do it.
Sorry OP for derailing your thread so badly.
