Does "Destination" matter?

Lloren said:
I think (my feeling) is it's the same issue as discussed above. God can't contradict Himself. So if you believe that God's calling is combined with justification and sanctification then there is no limitation. That would be calling God's character into question of sorts.
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Wait, just so I understand correctly: you believe that justification and sanctification take place before belief and repentance (since the calling includes both)?
 
Patriot said:
Wait, just so I understand correctly: you believe that justification and sanctification take place before belief and repentance (since the calling includes both)?
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Sorry I gave that impression. My interpretation of Romans 8 is that God includes all those things (even though they don't all necessarily happen at once).

Romans 8:28-30 - 28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[a] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

ChristGuard; said:
Does a Christian's stance on "Pre-Destination" matter? If so, how so? Can someone disagree with your stance on pre-destination and still go to heaven, serve Christ, or simply just grow in Him? Or is it a fundamental? Why?
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Steering us back on topic, have we beat this horse dead yet? ChristGuard asked the question (if he'll permit me translate) "Can someone be a true Christian and have different beliefs about how God determines our salvation?"

I'd say the answer is "yes". Do we have any "no" votes?
 
Lloren said:
Steering us back on topic, have we beat this horse dead yet? ChristGuard asked the question (if he'll permit me translate) "Can someone be a true Christian and have different beliefs about how God determines our salvation?"

I'd say the answer is "yes". Do we have any "no" votes?
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My answer is most definitely yes as well. :)
 
Lloren said:
Sorry I gave that impression. My interpretation of Romans 8 is that God includes all those things (even though they don't all necessarily happen at once).
Steering us back on topic, have we beat this horse dead yet? ChristGuard asked the question (if he'll permit me translate) "Can someone be a true Christian and have different beliefs about how God determines our salvation?"

I'd say the answer is "yes". Do we have any "no" votes?
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Yes.
 
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